Do any Hillary supporters care about what Wikileaks has shown?

I still find it almost impossible to believe that there are those who could think he would be a good President for our Nation.

You sound a bit close-minded. The problem is that we are not asked to decide if Trump is the best possible person for president. The question is, is he better than Hillary?
 
I for one do not see anything suspicious about a child rape accusation being filed against Trump six weeks before the election for something that allegedly happened 21 years ago. It's not like it makes these girls look like opportunists or anything.

The last republican candidate murdered the wife of a worker in a plant he looted. He tortured his dog and didn't pay any tax. His VP was seen by millions pushing an elderly woman in a wheel chair off a cliff.
 
I note that if were we not just at a tipping point on the Sup Ct. I would be more concerned about the dishonesty of the press than the dishonesty of a Clinton.

The fact the press is almost monolithic in their unethical behavior in support of a crony candidate is an example of what has allowed ruling/crony class to work together to wipe out true liberalism and pervert it into crony govt.

The "journalists" of the fourth estate allowed their institution to be destroyed by bias and in so doing they destroyed the culture of America's liberals. Without liberals they allowed the Republican team to win (bankers now own the republicans businesses.) thinking they were voting for democrats. . meanwhile a few republican voters became more liberal and now they are vilified for supporting freedom and the constitution. Something liberals did in the 70s and before.

In short when the press went from liberal to crony... America lost its classical liberal culture.

I wonder if you drone Hillary supporters even understand the significance of the fact you are not liberals? you are 80s and 90s crony republicans?

If you don't believe me, when was the last time you chose freedom over democrats.
Case in point- Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead is a member of the Bohemian Club(Bohemian Grove).
 
I could not agree more. Exactly reflective of my state of mind as well. It is unreal how he can now go to war with the entire Republican base and still have a shot at the presidency. If he loses the election he must be the most hated man in America.

I wasted time looking through this entire thread for one of those emails that seem to have got people all worked up. Did not find a single one. Would like to know what is so interesting about them. I did find an article in Huff Post (posted a link) about what seem to be rather serious allegations against Trump. It is claimed there are witnesses to him raping a child and there is according to that article a criminal law suit going forward at this time. I guess the most amazing thing at this point is that all Republicans have not yet withdrawn their support for Mr. Trump. It would seem that he is in very, very serious trouble. May end up going to prison. But of course these are just allegations at this point. But judging from the Huff Post article they appear creditable. Rather scary I would think for Mr. Trump and his family. I do hope the allegations prove to be false, but it is not looking at all good for him at the moment.

Regardless there has never been any doubt in my mind that Trump was not qualified to be the Republican nominee, let alone the President. I wrote months ago that he was irrelevant. And though he is certain to end up that way to all but is family, friends and those he has cheated or abused over the years, I was completely wrong in my assessment before the Primary. I thought it would be obvious to all that he was unqualified and therefore had zero chance of gaining the nomination. I think my mistake is an indictment of my own judgment in the sense that it shows how out of step I sometimes am with the mainstream. I still find it almost impossible to believe that there are those who could think he would be a good President for our Nation.
 
I for one do not see anything suspicious about a child rape accusation being filed against Trump six weeks before the election for something that allegedly happened 21 years ago. It's not like it makes these girls look like opportunists or anything.

The last republican candidate murdered the wife of a worker in a plant he looted. He tortured his dog and didn't pay any tax. His VP was seen by millions pushing an elderly woman in a wheel chair off a cliff.
Well Granny off the cliff, and the Romney "murdering" someone was ridiculous political crap. Though it wasn't so ridiculous for people to be shown what happens to companies when a leveraged buyout is used to raid a companies treasury using the companies own money. Huff Post was not talking politics, however, they were talking, according to statutory law, an adult raping a child! They were talking the kind of stuff that gets you sent to prison. There would seem to be an opportunist element to this based on the timing, that's true. But there also seems to be, if the Huff story is correct, an abundance of corroboration. If the accuser and the witnesses are to be believed, then this is not just serious stuff; this is very serious stuff. If trump seems to be losing it a bit, then I think I would be too, were I him. He's in really big trouble. From his perspective, this election is now small stuff compared to what's coming if the court lets this case go through. The explanation of why she did not come forward before seems quite believable. It can't go forward, in any case, unless they get an exception to the statute of limitations. But something tells me they will get that exception. Did you read that report in Huff? Oh, my god! Serious stuff here!!! Let's hope none of it is true.
 
You sound a bit close-minded. The problem is that we are not asked to decide if Trump is the best possible person for president. The question is, is he better than Hillary?
You know I have changed my mind a bit about Hillary. I was a Bernie supporter, as you probably know. I had some strong disagreements with him on an issue or two but overall I was pleased with his positions. And I was against Hillary because I thought it was a very bad idea to have these dynasties, like Adams and Adams, Bush and Bush, and now Bill and Hillary. But on closer examination, I'm not sure that this is a logical reason to reject her. Yes I much preferred Sanders over Clinton. But I really don't think my dynasty objection stands up very well to scrutiny. She is unabashedly and terribly ambitious, and some of us may be automatically turned off by that -- though that attitude doesn't stand up well to scrutiny either. She is also smart, experienced, and articulate. The latter is something Trump is not. He does not seem to have any understanding of issues beyond the surface. I don't think he reads. And he's been a very shitty business man. He has had like six bankruptcies, has a reputation for not honoring contracts, and just seems to be a horrible person to do business with judging by the hundreds of law suits, and all those who have said he did not pay them for agreed upon work. I'm not crazy about Hillary, but she knows how government works and she seems to listen. At least she listened to Bernie and his supporters. I admit I find her a bit annoying at times and I think John Kerry has been a better Secretary of State.

As far as all those so called scandals go, I've never seen anything to convince me that she ever did anything intentionally illegal. She had some good friends in the right places and some information that you or I would have liked to have had, but I don't think there was anything illegal. You know when you're an ivy league graduate and you meet the sons and daughters of some very wealthy folks, and then later you're married to the governor, doors that are shut to most can open for you. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm)

A lot has been made of her injudicious handling of email, and it was. But there is nothing there to be prosecuted, certainly not successfully. If you examine the cases where there was a successful prosecution or big fine (e.g., Petraeus) you'll find substantial differences. The government produces copius classified documents and only a tiny fraction of those really need to be. (see for example, "Secrecy" by Daniel Patrick Moynihan and also http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...revives-accusation-double-standard-between-c/)

I'm not crazy about Hillary but she is qualified and she could turn out to be a very good President. She's not my choice but C'mon, what choice do we have. IMO she is an OK choice, whereas a Trump Presidency scares the daylights out of me. If my basis for comparison is Donald Trump, then yes, Hillary is a far better choice.
 
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As far as all those so called scandals go, I've never seen anything to convince me that she ever did anything intentionally illegal.

A lot has been made of her injudicious handling of email, and it was. But there is nothing there to be prosecuted, certainly not successfully. She's not my choice but C'mon, what choice do we have. IMO she is an OK choice, whereas a Trump Presidency scares the daylights out of me. If my basis for comparison is Donald Trump, then yes, Hillary is a far better choice.
What is it about Johnson you dislike so much? Can't win? Like the old restuarant nobody goes to anymore because it is too crowded?
oh well, all Cabinet members should keep a server in their bathroom becuse it is now legal.
 
My country? Just what I thought.

You're not an American.

You're just another immigrant fuck from some shitty country, cheering on the death of America.

Fuck you and die.

Whereas you are a degenerate idiot who calls himself American but lives in Canada. We don't want filth like you in our country. Leave. If you were identified here, people would spit on you not on "liberals" that you detest and rail against on here. Surely if you believe all your shit, you should move back to the US. Mark my words, 99% of Canadians want you out of our country, you don't respect our value system or country. Win-Win, get the fuck out.
 
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