DeSantis for the win

That is the question...

Can states regulate interstate commerce as it relates to Covid?

As you may be implying, for years the Federal Govt and Federal Courts have been divesting states of that power...

But state power seems to be making a come back.

For instance...

CA and other states are regulating Pot...
Should they?
Can they do it legally?
Can CA and other states tell the Feds to mind their own business ? (they have)

All nice questions... for people who are not binary thinkers.

Then we wonder about international transportation...
I don't know, that is why I was asking.






gwb-trading said:
Since when does Florida regulate interstate or international transportation?
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El OchoCinco said:
Sorry you lost me on that ramble there...no one put a gun to your head and forced you to get vaccinated.

Again if RCL says it wants people to be vaccinated to be allowed on their cruise ship, then that is their business decision. does not matter if you agree with it or not, don't go on the cruise ship then until they open it up to all people in the near future... Sorry DeSantis got his pussy hurt but cruise ships bring in billions of dollars to the State that he uses instead of state income tax so he should focus his attention on something more important.
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Yes dumbass.. its their decision to make, they just can't operate in that manner in the State of Florida or its waters. They are free to relocate operations to where they will... where they can.
 
El OchoCinco said:
Cruise ships generate like $9 billion in expenditures in Florida and about 150,000 jobs as well as $8.1 billion in income for the State....
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Other cruise lines will gladly take their berths, their employees and their very favorable fuel and victual contracts. Its quite a lucrative concession.

And it is a concession, not unlike the hot dog guy at the ballpark.
 
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Snarkhund said:
Yes dumbass.. its their decision to make, they just can't operate in that manner in the State of Florida or its waters. They are free to relocate operations to where they will... where they can.
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Who says they can't? DeSantis? The law has not passed and been upheld yet. He is not a dictator.

Also it is funny you think Florida is going to do anything to lose its cruise ship business. and kiss billions in dollars goodbye....
 
Snarkhund said:
Other cruise lines will gladly take their berths, their employees and their very favorable fuel contracts. Its quite a lucrative concession.
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yes because you can slide another cruise line into the berth and change itineraries overnight like nothing...

You guys are so clouded by political hate you are actually saying RCL and CCL can just be bumped out of their terminals and someone else can just slide it haha..
 
This has nothing to do with hate.

I was just asking for a legal basis for your opinion that De Santis can't prevent private businesses from requiring a vaccine. ... while looking at my stock charts...
in case this stuff comes up in real life conversations.. in the future.

At the moment nothing useful was gained. Oh well.
 
jem said:
This has nothing to do with hate.

I was just asking for a legal basis for your opinion that De Santis can't prevent private businesses from requiring a vaccine. ... while looking at my stock charts...
in case this stuff comes up in real life conversations.. in the future.

At the moment nothing useful was gained. Oh well.
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Vaccine was approved by the FDA for treatment of COVID. Cruise ships are following CDC guidelines requiring 95% of passengers and crew to be vaccinated to cruise safely with few restrictions.

Cruise ships in order to protect their crew and fellow passengers are requiring proof of vaccine from passengers to be allowed on the ship (adults only).

What the cruise line is doing is not illegal or excessive and is in line with federal guidelines on a ship that has passengers from around the country and that travels in international waters.

DeSantis is the governor or Florida so it is an over reach of power to tell the cruise lines they cannot follow federal guidelines and put this requirement on passengers coming on their ship.

If federal guidelines change and no proof of vaccine is required then the cruise ships can change their policy as well or not.

That is the basic argument and not based on Dem v Gop or Vaccine v. No Vaccine.

If you feel the vaccine is bullshit then don't cruise until they go to lesser restrictions, that is all. De Santis does not have the power over this subject. If he wants government offices and businesses within the state to not restrict people based on vaccines...he can try it.
 
El OchoCinco said:
yes because you can slide another cruise line into the berth and change itineraries overnight like nothing...

You guys are so clouded by political hate you are actually saying RCL and CCL can just be bumped out of their terminals and someone else can just slide it haha..
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Well yes Ocho, when a city builds a stadium the city then can decide who gets concessionary rights which are sometimes sold at auction and can have a value of their own like taxi medallions.

The State built the ports and so has last right of refusal for what goes on there.

Vessels in a "slip" in a major port are there at the pleasure of the port authority of the state. That is the way it works here and in most places that do a lot of shipping. They could park something else in there the next day after it was vacated. Not sure I see the problem with that.
 
Snarkhund said:
Well yes Ocho, when a city builds a stadium the city then can decide who gets concessionary rights which are sometimes sold at auction and can have a value of their own like taxi medallions.

The State built the ports and so has last right of refusal for what goes on there.

Vessels in a "slip" in a major port are there at the pleasure of the port authority of the state. That is the way it works here and in most places that do a lot of shipping. They could park something else in there the next day after it was vacated. Not sure I see the problem with that.
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Unless CDC or federal guidleines change, DeSantis is not going to win this won on his own as he does not have the power to do so for interstate commerce. The cruise ships lease the space and paid for the building of the terminals there and the new renovations. de Santis does not own the port and all the property and lord over it.

Why you so upset the cruise lines want proof of vaccine....
Why you so loyal to a politician who does nothing for you...
 
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