DeSantis for the win
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Hold your horses.... just haven't had a opportunity yet to research and post a response.
Ah, but you've had the opportunity to take a bunch of shots at DeSantis.
Of interest in the bigger picture, North York General the biggest hospital in our area ( and a hot spot for SARS many years ago ) has no Covid patients at all now. What I'm saying is taking a patient, responsible approach to this virus may possibly allow you to open up in stages, avoid the worst of it, and once the treatments improve and spread is dissipated it's a major win for the area.
Again, I don't say this with absolute certainty, but the data the last month plus suggests the path we chose was a good one. Those who believe a sudden fast opening or Sweden's initial approach was ideal ( eg Jem ) may be in for a slow awakening that their ideas were flawed to some degree ( in Jem's case a lot ). More then half of Ontario's current infections were from poorly managed farms near Windsor. What will be interesting to see is in a low infection area, will the virus peter out eventually, and how will we mitigate the danger of still having high infection areas in the world. Will the commencement of busier office work and sports activities lead to a second wave and to what degree in each area ? Guess we'll see.
Again, I don't say this with absolute certainty, but the data the last month plus suggests the path we chose was a good one. Those who believe a sudden fast opening or Sweden's initial approach was ideal ( eg Jem ) may be in for a slow awakening that their ideas were flawed to some degree ( in Jem's case a lot ). More then half of Ontario's current infections were from poorly managed farms near Windsor. What will be interesting to see is in a low infection area, will the virus peter out eventually, and how will we mitigate the danger of still having high infection areas in the world. Will the commencement of busier office work and sports activities lead to a second wave and to what degree in each area ? Guess we'll see.
I have no idea about DeSantis, but Trump does bear a lot of direct responsibility for the chaos and severity of the virus experience in the US. Only the idiot in Brazil has been worse and he likes to model his ideas and behavior to match Trump. Trump continues to make claims that are outright lies, like suggesting increased testing is why you have such large infection rates. It might be a contributing factor, but not nearly the main factor.
Let's discuss North Carolina a bit...
Our governor has been emphasized in recent days that cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are rising. Our governor has stated this over and over again. We are in Phase 2 of our re-opening and he has rejected moving to Phase 3, and stated if trends continue we will need to rollback to Phase 1. In our current Phase 2, gyms and bars are closed, retailers are open with constraints, restaurants are open at 50% dine-in capacity, and gatherings over 10 people are prohibited.
Our state COVID data is openly shared with medical researchers and first responders. There has never, not once, been a complaint about the transparency of data on our state portal. North Carolina has continued to enhance and increase the provided data over time - driven my requests for improvements. Our state executive administration strived to accommodate all the improvements. As stated on the portal the display of deaths may be delayed ("Information collected during this period may not yet be reported"). However, unlike Florida, after 14 days all of our death data obviously aligns with third party sources.
Our governor has been outlining the data clearly, not hiding any data, and has scientific advisors at every press conference to support the facts. And the facts state the COVID situation is not looking good in our state. While our rise in deaths is not rapid over the past few days as seen in other states; the trend in cases and hospitalizations makes it clear what the future holds.
This well-respected transparency in North Carolina is very different than how the DeSantis administration handles things in Florida. At least we are not being told inane nonsense from our governor like Coronavirus Cases Are Spiking Because of a ‘Flatter Curve’.
More people died in New Jersey today even though they had 1/20 of the infections of Florida today.
The point is that all these people thinking the fatalities will stay low in these states that are just reaching epidemic levels do not understand what they are dealing with and that as time goes by the fatalities will increase.
The point is that all these people thinking the fatalities will stay low in these states that are just reaching epidemic levels do not understand what they are dealing with and that as time goes by the fatalities will increase.
I think you know enough about me to know I don't defend Trump for much of anything.
Since you've had all day to look at this and all you've posted is your comments on the governor of NC, I'm going to make the assumption you accept my data as presented and that your Friday "Here are the death's finally" post about Florida is withdrawn. I know you rarely admit to being mistaken, but I think this is as good as I'm going to get with you.