Day trading is losers game

I finally found a robust day trading/scalping system , which is consistently profitable with low drawdowns

Cool! I guess you were wrong about day trading then, was that the same system that appeared on the net under your name in 2007 by any chance?
 
Quote from sheda:

Cool! I guess you were wrong about day trading then, was that the same system that appeared on the net under your name in 2007 by any chance?

I just devised it recently based on my experiences , after trying out and live testing of hundreds of systems.
 
Quote from oilfxpro:

There are so many threads negative about day trading , it was time to ask why is there no successful day trader in the popularity of George Sorros , Jim Symons etc.

Trading is a zero sum game and day trading is a negative sum game.The only people making money out of it is brokers.

If it was profitable to day trade , brokers would hire people to trade with broker's capital.

A few internet marketeers are selling motoring , under the guise of successful day trading , but these are just scams.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=220707

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=220676

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=218977

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220513

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218160


LOL ... there are a lot of succesfull prop trader, they are daytrader.


"it was time to ask why is there no successful day trader in the popularity of George Sorros , Jim Symons etc."

because as a daytrader it is impossible to move thats much money as they do! for institutionals daytrader just moves smal amounts (lol smale like a few million$)
 
trading is more about controlling emotions and managing the money properly.
Keep the losses small,
let your profits run,
trade the trend,
have defined entry and exit criteria,
and forget about success ratio of your method.

These are the basic things that all of us know from day one of our trading but only 5-10% traders follow this, and those 10% are the rich guys who take home rest 90% of the money :)

keep it simple people
follow the basics, get your emotions out of it, and definitely you will experience better trading. It helped me, maybe helps you too :)

have a nice trading week ahead.
 
Quote from Xspurt:

Good to hear. All systems rely on MM to make them survive but when max draw downs are exceeded the question will be do you hang in there? Neke is an example of a winning approach that is suffering so what should he do? There are no shortage of opinions on ET but it had great consecutive years profit.

You might have the winning system and time will tell. If it isn't, do you have the tools to know why and what to do? All mechanical systems that I have seen in almost 30 yrs have a flaw, but that doesn't mean no one can come up with one that works, it just makes it very unlikely.

Systems have a great appeal. You can learn them in very little time and they offer success on a plate and always with a unique twist that makes then better than all the ones that failed: that twist is always MM.

I used to be a pro gambler and I started out with a very successful system that I paid a pro gambler to teach me. Then I wanted to understand the game and that was when I discovered control came from knowing how the market flows. Trading is no different: it is a game of fakes and shark pools and runs but in time they change the game and that is when mechanical systems are shown to be curve fitted.

Btw a system like you quote will sell for tens of millions to the banks. Right now you can get IB's on ET who will get you accredited investors wanting to make 100 to 350% pa with a 3% draw down. There is one problem though, none of them will be interested and either their experience or yours is lacking something and the thread heading makes me think it might be you.

If you prove me wrong you will offer hope to millions of robot and system traders who paid a few bucks to get rich. Trading is a huge time consuming learning curve and what you are doing is part of the dues we must all pay so it is not intended as criticism. I was in those shoes at one time.


I have spent many years devising profitable systems .I devised an automated package of 44 different systems combined , the systems returns fell to a meagre 15 % in the last 3 years from 23 % over last 10 years. .The bucket shops with their requotes is where one could trade these automated systems , it is no good to trade with these bucket shops , so I stopped using them.

Based on my huge experience , I have devised a system which should and would work intraday .These systems run profits and cut losses.To trade the system , one has to be very quick to exit and calm enough to run profits , we achieved this by running two positions ,one for running profits and one for a small lock in.The system trades an average of 10 to 15 trades a day ,and relies on one or two trades to make the profit.The high number of trades ,the quick exits and re-entries ensure the fakes don't catch us out.I have seen enough fakes designed to shark feed trend traders.

We are as quick as the sharks and we are changing direction and going with the strength and market flow , above all we are following the sharks with quick exit strategy.

I devised the system based on my previous experience and knowledge of the markets.

I have seen the system make profit all week every day , where most other systems have failed.The more people follow the system , the more sharks get eaten , one hedge fund trader was more worried about the army of little guys slaughtering them.
 
Quote from tradin4profits:

EXSPURT say's ........"A friend bought a champion greyhound for a lot of money. Before every race he fed it 6 Mars bars and it went in a few races as the favorite and then the odds widened after that. When the odds were high the dog was set up to win and he hit the market hard"


I bet the odds did widen, the poor dog probably died. Giving chocolate to a dog or any animal is like poisoning it. Their bodies cannot digest chocolate and it becomes poison to an animal and will kill it. your freind doesnt seem to be be very bright , or maybe he is just greedy beyond stupidity and doesnt care about the animal!
People get all stupid about chocolate killing dogs. It's like us eating caffeine and yes it most certainly can kill you but people love it can't go without it yet a 10 gram dose (depending on your weight )is likely to kill you .

So yeah chocolate is safe for dogs in small doses and they love it just like we love caffeine in the morning to get going.
 
I just devised it recently based on my experiences , after trying out and live testing of hundreds of systems


I am pleased you finally reached the promised land.
 
Retail have not any advantage

Spread
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Compare to casino ....

In game where gambler is dissadvantaged (lower as 50 :50)

best chance to win -low quantities (until 3-4 ) bet's with great risk
 
Quote from Xspurt:




Money and greed and gaming the public happens at all levels: always did and always will. In the US the elected representatives are allowed to use insider information to trade, something that is illegal elsewhere and having a set of rules for leaders and a different set for the public makes it feel honest to shaft the public as much as you can.


They only just recently changed the law on that.. Congress can't insider trade anymore
 
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