Corona Virus Death Rate will be about .6% to .7%
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Typical useless response from you..
Go back to your fear mongering and gwBe-lying.
Go back to your fear mongering and gwBe-lying.
I workout about 29 days a month and make sure I have plenty of natural vitamin D. I doubt I will ever need drugs to fight Covid...
But... I have proven you lie over and over.
You should drop the weight and get in shape. You might not have to be so fearful... even at you age.
But... I have proven you lie over and over.
You should drop the weight and get in shape. You might not have to be so fearful... even at you age.
Not sure what you giggly girls think is so funny. The estimated death rates have been changing constantly since last winter, starting very high, and gradually going lower and lower such that the "natural" death rate appears to stand now at about 3 in 1000. I can't recall when most sources settled upon that number. But those numbers were as high as 50 in 1000 at the beginning.
Meanwhile, the lowest rate i ever heard about for hydroxycholoquine was about 3 in 1000. Of course, those numbers all depended on when it was administered. Even then, there were doubtfully enough case studies to scientifically come up with enough data points to be meaningful.
In this shifting environment, why do you girls giggle so much? Is it because you actually think you know something, or that actual rates can be known? I don't think so. Not in this politically charged environment.
Now comes this vaccine and we are hearing numbers from 70% to 95% effective. And your best spokes-girl gwb thinks he is above stooping to the level of explaining this. Is it because you girls really have no clue what that means?
Is the "95%" effective applied to the 3 (in 1000) or the 1000...or to the entire yet-to-be infected population?
I don't think you know. Laughing doesn't convert your faith into knowledge.
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Hydroxycholoquine-based therapy has been proven to be completely ineffective in preventing or treating COVID-19. At this point this is a fact -- not speculation. In fact using hydroxycholoquine to treat COVID killed more people. Mainstream doctors in first world nations are no longer using hydroxycholoquine to treat COVID -- even promoter Trump was not treated with hydroxycholoquine.
You are spouting nonsense.
Apparently you don't understand how the effectiveness of vaccines works either. Go educate yourself.
Vaccines are not given simply to prevent death they are preventing you from getting sick from the virus or reducing the effects of the illness. You think Polio vaccine came about because millions were dying or they were getting paralyzed or stuck in iron lungs for their life.
People don't get FLU vaccines to not die, its to not be sick for weeks with the FLU and knocked out. For a small % it is a life or death issues for those in the high risk category.
You may have your limited intelligence focused only on deaths but ask the people who had and were sick for weeks or the hospitals dealing with hundreds of non fatal cases yet the people are still required to be in the hospital.
So the efficacy rate is not just measured on deaths but on sickness overall.
Wow......it is like many here must prove they have no higher than a 5th grade education to discuss this...
People don't get FLU vaccines to not die, its to not be sick for weeks with the FLU and knocked out. For a small % it is a life or death issues for those in the high risk category.
You may have your limited intelligence focused only on deaths but ask the people who had and were sick for weeks or the hospitals dealing with hundreds of non fatal cases yet the people are still required to be in the hospital.
So the efficacy rate is not just measured on deaths but on sickness overall.
Wow......it is like many here must prove they have no higher than a 5th grade education to discuss this...
Exactly --- the purpose of vaccines is two-fold. First is to reduce the severity of the symptoms if you do get the disease so you will likely not be hospitalized. The second is to form anti-bodies after your vaccination over a period of weeks -- for COVID most vaccines will require two doses to be effective and have 90%+ of people generating an effective level of antibodies to obtain immunity. However the entire community must have a 70%+ effective vaccination rate for COVID to provide "herd immunity". This is coupled with the effectiveness of the vaccine. So if a vaccine is 90% effective and your require 70% level for "hear immunity" then you will need a 77.77% vaccination rate at the 90% effectiveness level to arrive at the 70% level (note this is the short-hand calculation - the formulas are more complex).
It takes statistics based on accurate data. Right now of the confirmed cases there have been 258k deaths over 12.5M cases. That's 2.1%. Deaths lag the case count by an average of at least 2 weeks so expect this to increase even if the cases remain stagnant. However, it's pretty much impossible to determine the number of people who've actually had the virus thus far. Most people assume that the confirmed cases represent less than half of the actual cases. I don't know how you can get the death rate down to a less than a 20% margin from what we know. I think it's reasonable to assume that the rate is going to end up somewhere between .1-1% though.
Who proved it? How?
Youre repeating talking points from last spring. And this is not the point of my query. Suppose hcq was a placebo for argument sake. It was measured at 3 deaths in 1000 approx. Meanwhile the official rate starts about 50 in 1000 and finally moved down to 3 in 1000 the same as "placebo".
Back then 3 in 1000 was considered good...nit enough to shut down economy or mail out millions ballots. So there appears to have been plenty scare mongering. Still, that is not the point.
Now, what is the death rate supposed to be with new vaccines? Do you know? I dont think you do.