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[Wallet]

I lived through the Vietnam War, and I have no problem assuring you that the single most important thing those young men on football teems can do with their lives right now is get out on that field and kneel during the national anthem. That's far more important to the nations future than any football game.

I lived through the Vietnam war too, and kneeling on a football field during the national anthem is far far removed from anything that is beneficial to our nations future.

Are Racial matters important, yes, but there are other matters that are much more pressing concerning our Nation.

If you want to have a dialogue, start the convetsation in a manner that does not alienate the other party.

 

[piezoe]

If you want to have a dialogue, start the convetsation in a manner that does not alienate the other party.

That is the ideal. A dialog. Always preferable whenever possible. In reality we have carried on a dialog on racism for many years, and even some progress has resulted! In the present situation, however, there is an underlying problem far more dangerous than racism. The real problem is the attitude of the President and some Military personnel, according to gwb-trading, which runs counter to everything we were taught to hold sacred from grade school on. The President and our Military were taught this as well, but have forgotten their lessons. Now they are expressing views that run counter to the bedrock of our very American principles. This is the real danger! It lies in the attitude that to protest, in a peaceful way, what an individual believes is an unjust, wrong, or immoral policy or action is somehow unpatriotic. In truth nothing could be more patriotic then what those football players are doing. And whether you or I agree with their cause, or even understand it fully, is completely beside the point!

 

[piezoe]

Since kneeling for the national anthem is considered incredibly disrespectful by over 60% of the nation's population would you consider having the NFL players protesting in another manner such as wearing armbands or wearing cleats that being attention to their cause?

This would be far more beneficial to promoting their agenda while not infuriating the majority of the country's population -- and the symbolism would be present the entire game rather than just at the beginning.

I think they should continue as they are. And for the same reason I thought those who were stitching American flags to the seat of their britches in 1971 should continue. For an explanation, please take a look at my response to Wallet above.

 

[gwb-trading]

In the present situation, however, there is an underlying problem far more dangerous than racism. The real problem is the attitude of the President and some Military personnel, according to gwb-trading, which runs counter to everything we were taught to hold sacred from grade school on. T

In view that in opinion surveys provided by polling organizations in the last couple of days -- 58% to 60% of Americans do not support NFL players kneeling for the national anthem. The opinion of the President and military members are hardly in the minority. The act of kneeling is highly disrespectful to our country and those who served in our military. Your post above where you attempt to assert that the attitude of over 80% of military personal (according to our local news) is somehow more dangerous than racism is both insulting to the military and absurd.

Lets go over again what you were taught to hold sacred in grade school -- since you obviously failed to be impressed with the lesson. You STAND respectfully with your right hand over your heart for the national anthem - no exceptions. You also stand respectfully and recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day in class. How did you miss thees basic lessons of what is sacred in America in grade school?

 

[Tsing Tao]

In view that in opinion surveys provided by polling organizations in the last couple of days -- 58% to 60% of Americans do not support NFL players kneeling for the national anthem. The opinion of the President and military members are hardly in the minority. The act of kneeling is highly disrespectful to our country and those who served in our military. Your post above where you attempt to assert that the attitude of over 80% of military personal (according to our local news) is somehow more dangerous than racism is both insulting to the military and absurd.

Lets go over again what you were taught to hold sacred in grade school -- since you obviously failed to be impressed with the lesson. You STAND respectfully with your right hand over your heart for the national anthem - no exceptions. You also stand respectfully and recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day in class. How did you miss thees basic lessons of what is sacred in America in grade school?

When Piezoe went to grade school, they still had all ages in one red school house on the prairie.

 

[piezoe]

In view that in opinion surveys provided by polling organizations in the last couple of days -- 58% to 60% of Americans do not support NFL players kneeling for the national anthem. The opinion of the President and military members are hardly in the minority. The act of kneeling is highly disrespectful to our country and those who served in our military. Your post above where you attempt to assert that the attitude of over 80% of military personal (according to our local news) is somehow more dangerous than racism is both insulting to the military and absurd.

Lets go over again what you were taught to hold sacred in grade school -- since you obviously failed to be impressed with the lesson. You STAND respectfully with your right hand over your heart for the national anthem - no exceptions. You also stand respectfully and recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day in class. How did you miss thees basic lessons of what is sacred in America in grade school?

I didn't miss these basic lessens at all. I learned, eventually, what those gestures stood for!

There is no logical connection that can be made between those kneeling football players and a disrespect for military personnel; there is only illogic! As Americans we have a duty to call attention to such misguided, reflex-like sentiments and the danger that they pose to society.

I agree with Tony Stark who said it was disgraceful to use our military as pawns for white nationalist causes. That's what seems to be going on here in these ridiculous attempts to link kneeling football players to disrespect for military personnel.

 

[piezoe]

When Piezoe went to grade school, they still had all ages in one red school house on the prairie.

Not quite. My grade school was a beautiful 19th Century yellow brick building with gigantic windows and high ceilings. I remember that as a grade school kid the structure seemed absolutely enormous to me. The classrooms were heated with radiators. It was replaced with a modern structure in the 1950s. I miss the old school.

 

[gwb-trading]

I didn't miss these basic lessens at all. I learned, eventually, what those gestures stood for!

There is no logical connection that can be made between those kneeling football players and a disrespect for military personnel; there is only illogic! As Americans we have a duty to call attention to such misguided, reflex-like sentiments and the danger that they pose to society.

I agree with Tony Stark who said it was disgraceful to use our military as pawns for white nationalist causes. That's what seems to going on here in these ridiculous attempts to link kneeling football players to disrespect for military personnel.

The large majority of Americans and huge majority of military members & veterans believe that kneeling for the national anthem is hugely disrespectful for the sacrifices of our military who served under the U.S. flag. There is nothing illogical about this -- in fact it is very logical.

While you might view it as "misguided, reflex-like sentiments" and Tony may assert that it is "disgraceful to use our military as pawns for white nationalist causes" (which is an absolutely absurd statement) -- your attempt to state that these are "ridiculous attempts to link kneeling football players to disrespect for military personnel" flies in face of reasonable perspective.

 

[gwb-trading]

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I agree with Tony Stark who said it was disgraceful to use our military as pawns for white nationalist causes. .

Because why?.........because it detracts from efforts to use the police for black nationalist causes which is what the football maggots are doing?


-Tree