Chevy Volt takes 27 years before owners save money

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You're a joke. You spread lies about GM admitting problems with Volt fires and then can't even provide a link. You are like a politician that would rather kill a bill that would do good than admit the other side is right on an issue and join them.
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They burn. Look it up on Google. I'm not your search-bitch.

You are an idiot for buying one and a hustler for trying to sell them. I don't argue engineering issues with cars salesmen or environmental science majors. You'll just have to sort it out for yourself.

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Get a free jar of dill pickles and a pack of hot-links with your purchase today! First car buyer gets a tube of SPF-1,000000 sunblock and a 3-pack of asbestos underwear! Bring the kids down!
 
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Ah yes, government data to support your claim. I always believe the government. Good play.

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-volt-fire-20120120,0,5038267.story

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhenry/2011/12/12/chevy-volt-battery-fires-threaten-all-electric-ve/
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OK So who do you have supporting your claim? You make a statement backed up by no credible link. No real world Volt crashes or otherwise have resulted in any fires and the crash tested ones did not follow standard procedure that every first responder would know to carry out. Meanwhile a quarter million fires a year happen is gas vehicles and we don't think twice about it.

From the LA Times article:

GM is retrofitting the roughly 8,000 Volts it has already sold and modifying new cars coming off the assembly line. It is adding structural reinforcement that better protects the battery pack from punctures or a coolant leak in a severe side crash.

NHTSA has conducted tests on Volts retrofitted with the structural reinforcement and said the remedy prevents the types of fires that were occurring in its early side impact tests.

“There will be growing pains as this technology comes on the market. This won’t be the last thing that we hear of,” said Aaron Bragman, an analyst with IHS Automotive.

“GM came out with a fix for it because it was a public relations issue but from an engineering viewpoint there really wasn’t a problem with the car considering the conditions of the test needed to create a fire,” Bragman said.
 
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They burn. Look it up on Google. I'm not your search-bitch.

You are an idiot for buying one and a hustler for trying to sell them. I don't argue engineering issues with cars salesmen or environmental science majors. You'll just have to sort it out for yourself.

The GM Barbeque.

Get a free jar of dill pickles and a pack of hot-links with your purchase today! First car buyer gets a tube of SPF-1,000000 sunblock and a 3-pack of asbestos underwear! Bring the kids down!
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I don't have all day to sit here research non existent stuff so please save me the time and put up a an article stating that the Volt caught on fire in a real world situation. Otherwise I don't see how you have any credibility.

You make up lies and then defend it by calling me a liar and a hustler. Real quality argument.
 
Wow, you really do sound like a shill. At first, I thought 377OHMS was just exaggerating!

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/11/28/chevy_volt_batteries_catching_on_fire

Federal officials say they are investigating the safety of lithium-ion battery in General Motors Co.'s Chevrolet Volt after a second battery fire following crash-testing of the electric car.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Friday that three Volt battery packs were crash-tested last week. In one instance, the battery caught fire afterward, and in another the battery emitted smoke and sparks.

Last May, a fire erupted in the battery of a Chevy Volt that had been damaged during a government crash test three weeks earlier. Last week's tests were an attempt to replicate the May fire.

Often times, batteries used in hybrid vehicals like the Chevy Volt must be disposed of overseas. Why? The batteries are so toxic, they do not meet EPA standards here in the United States. Seems like they don't meet car safety standards, either.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...re-electric-car-general-motors_n_1114193.html

The car had been subjected to a side-impact crash test more than three weeks earlier, on May 12, during which the battery was punctured and its coolant line ruptured.

Last week's tests of three battery packs were designed to replicate the May test. In that test, the Volt was subjected to a simulated side-impact collision into a narrow object like a tree or pole followed by a rollover, the agency said.

The first battery tested last week didn't catch fire. But a battery test on Nov. 17 initially experienced a temporary temperature increase, and on Thursday caught fire while being monitored. Another battery tested on Nov. 18, which was rotated 180 degrees within hours after the test, began to smoke and emit sparks shortly after the rotation.
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Wow, you really do sound like a shill. At first, I thought 377OHMS was just exaggerating!

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And I thought you were here to have an intelligent discussion. I will admit that I was wrong about that.
 
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And I thought you were here to have an intelligent discussion. I will admit that I was wrong about that.
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A Chevy Volt salesman judging intelligence LOL. :D
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/11/28/chevy_volt_batteries_catching_on_fire

Federal officials say they are investigating the safety of lithium-ion battery in General Motors Co.'s Chevrolet Volt after a second battery fire following crash-testing of the electric car.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Friday that three Volt battery packs were crash-tested last week. In one instance, the battery caught fire afterward, and in another the battery emitted smoke and sparks.

Last May, a fire erupted in the battery of a Chevy Volt that had been damaged during a government crash test three weeks earlier. Last week's tests were an attempt to replicate the May fire.

Often times, batteries used in hybrid vehicals like the Chevy Volt must be disposed of overseas. Why? The batteries are so toxic, they do not meet EPA standards here in the United States. Seems like they don't meet car safety standards, either.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...re-electric-car-general-motors_n_1114193.html
The car had been subjected to a side-impact crash test more than three weeks earlier, on May 12, during which the battery was punctured and its coolant line ruptured.

Last week's tests of three battery packs were designed to replicate the May test. In that test, the Volt was subjected to a simulated side-impact collision into a narrow object like a tree or pole followed by a rollover, the agency said.

The first battery tested last week didn't catch fire. But a battery test on Nov. 17 initially experienced a temporary temperature increase, and on Thursday caught fire while being monitored. Another battery tested on Nov. 18, which was rotated 180 degrees within hours after the test, began to smoke and emit sparks shortly after the rotation.
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OK, so a couple of Volt's caught on fire in crash tests. The government began investigating. What was their conclusion?
 
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OK, so a couple of Volt's caught on fire in crash tests. The government began investigating. What was their conclusion?
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Conclusion: They burn.
 
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