Here you go.Quote from Lucrum:
IF it's true I might be. Got a link for that, to save me time I don't really have.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/gm-uaw-labor-deal-2011_n_973473.html
Here you go.Quote from Lucrum:
IF it's true I might be. Got a link for that, to save me time I don't really have.
Electric razor on wheels? I don't even know what you mean by that. But you are right, there are very few people willing to pay $40k for an electric vehicle. That's why it will be up to the car company's to bring the cost down to a viable level. But this couldn't happen if a few people in the beginning didn't purchase and use them so that the car company's know that there is a market for them.Quote from CaptainObvious:
I don't hate big oil or hospitals, but that isn't the point. Subsidizing big oil is foolish as is subsidizing electric vehicles that don't deliver. Big oil doesn't need the money and electric vehicles are no where near a viable solution as is evidenced by virtually zero demand for them. Bottom line, there are few people willing to pay 40K for what amounts to a electric razor on wheels.
Quote from Sandybestdog:
Electric razor on wheels? I don't even know what you mean by that. But you are right, there are very few people willing to pay $40k for an electric vehicle. That's why it will be up to the car company's to bring the cost down to a viable level. But this couldn't happen if a few people in the beginning didn't purchase and use them so that the car company's know that there is a market for them.

What do you mean no utility? I can confortably fit three adults and my golf clubs in the car. I don't need any more than that. So GM makes money on engines now, why can't they make money on electric cars now? The Volt still has an engine in it.Quote from 377OHMS:
He means that it has the transportation utility of an electric razor as in nearly zero utility.
A liberal car salesman trying to push the GM Volt in ET's P&R forum. Pretty comical.
GM will never willingly produce an electric vehicle and you know it. They make their money on internal combustion engines. It will be up to some new companies to really develop proper electric vehicles.
But I don't deny they are coming. I rather like the movie "Gattaca" where everyone is driving old stylish cars all retrofitted with electric technology. Kind of a cool vision of the future.
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What do you mean no utility? I can confortably fit three adults and my golf clubs in the car. I don't need any more than that. So GM makes money on engines now, why can't they make money on electric cars now? The Volt still has an engine in it.
I'm not so much as pushing the Volt, as I am correcting the fallacy's being made. Let's just face it, you want a Volt but it's now become such political hot topic that you can't be caught dead in one out of fear of what others will say. What a shame.
Quote from Sandybestdog:
What do you mean no utility? I can confortably fit three adults and my golf clubs in the car. I don't need any more than that. So GM makes money on engines now, why can't they make money on electric cars now? The Volt still has an engine in it.
I'm not so much as pushing the Volt, as I am correcting the fallacy's being made. Let's just face it, you want a Volt but it's now become such political hot topic that you can't be caught dead in one out of fear of what others will say. What a shame.
Quote from Sandybestdog:
What do you mean no utility? I can confortably fit three adults and my golf clubs in the car. I don't need any more than that. So GM makes money on engines now, why can't they make money on electric cars now? The Volt still has an engine in it.
I'm not so much as pushing the Volt, as I am correcting the fallacy's being made. Let's just face it, you want a Volt but it's now become such political hot topic that you can't be caught dead in one out of fear of what others will say. What a shame.
Quote from bigarrow:
What do you think about the VW Jetta diesel? A friend of mine bought one and he loves it. He drives about 1200 miles a week in the DFW area. He said he's getting 41 mpg.
Quote from 377OHMS:
You didn't ask me but a couple of people at work have them and love them. I've also read that they are reliable and that engine lasts a very long time. Diesel is a little more expensive then gasoline though so you have to factor that into comparisons. Your massive IQ should make those calculations seem like childs play.