Calendar secrets :-)

[destriero]

Dipsht, the calendar is best practice if vols rise. The vertical is preferred if vols fall.

 

[MacBookProHo]

So what's the Bottom Line to all this technical talk and debating,

What kind of % returns over what time frame does all this deliver to the wise trader?

 

[Overnight]

So what's the Bottom Line to all this technical talk and debating,

What kind of % returns over what time frame does all this deliver to the wise trader?

Dude, you do NOT want to start with your malarkey in this thread, about hypothetical million-dollar years. Trust me.

 

[ondafringe]

Can I be short a long put? Can I be short a short call? You do know I am just messing with the nomenclature, right? I was just nickpicking?

Yes. I was just joining the party.

 

[Overnight]

Yes. I was just joining the party.

Well, apparently tomorrow is going to be crazy on the quad-witching, so hang on for the ride! IV should shoot through the roof, so work your option majiks!

 

[earth_imperator]

Dipsht, the calendar is best practice if vols rise. The vertical is preferred if vols fall.

You are just saying the same what I already had said in my previous posting:

And: a higher LongPut IV instead then gives a higher PnL%. So what?

And you are imprecise since you talk of IV generally, not distinguishing btw. the IV of the Short and Long leg.
Even if you were implicitly meaning the combined "net volatility", it still would not be correct, IMO.

Another fallacy of yours: your above 2nd statement says that at expiration IV matters with verticals.
But it does not! B/c IV of any option does not matter at its expiration, as then only the price of the underlying matters.

 

[earth_imperator]

So what's the Bottom Line to all this technical talk and debating,

What kind of % returns over what time frame does all this deliver to the wise trader?

Just do the math to get the answer, as it's dependent on the basis (ie. the vertical alternative to the calendar alternative, or vice-versa). The degree of the improvement depends also on whether it's a margin acct or a cash acct. I think margin acct is generally better.
Later I'll try to compile some values in table...

 

[destriero]

You are just saying the same what I already had said in my previous posting:

And you are imprecise since you talk of IV generally, not distinguishing btw. the IV of the Short and Long leg.
Even if you were implicitly meaning the combined "net volatility", it still would not be correct, IMO.

Another fallacy of yours: your above 2nd statement says that at expiration IV matters with verticals.
But it does not! B/c IV of any option does not matter at its expiration, as then only the price of the underlying matters.

Vols are expiration are zero with verticals. The vert is preferred if vols fall bc the calendar will suffer by comparison, moron.

 

[earth_imperator]

Vols are expiration are zero with verticals. The vert is preferred if vols fall bc the calendar will suffer by comparison, moron.

Tell us more such BS! Idiot! Back to my ban file.
This idiot really believes IV goes to 0 at expiration! What a sicko!

 

[MacBookProHo]

Just do the math to get the answer, as it's dependent on the basis (ie. the vertical alternative to the calendar alternative, or vice-versa). The degree of the improvement depends also on whether it's a margin acct or a cash acct.

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