Not all Iraqis are this way, but almost all non-hostile Iraqis still sit around and expect everything to be handed to them. Seize the day seems only to be understood by the terrorists (and not those people who actually want a better life, but have yet to do anything about it)
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Bush's Policy Change Angers Palestinians
- Thread starter Copernicus
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Not all Iraqis are this way, but almost all non-hostile Iraqis still sit around and expect everything to be handed to them. Seize the day seems only to be understood by the terrorists (and not those people who actually want a better life, but have yet to do anything about it)
>Why is it that when a Christian or a Jew does something
>evil in the name of their religion it is simply because they
>are bad individuals,but when a muslim does the same it
>is because the whole lot are evil?
Because they are Christians and Jews and you are Muslim. Me, I think all of ya are pretty much "evil" when you do something in the name of your religion.
JB
>evil in the name of their religion it is simply because they
>are bad individuals,but when a muslim does the same it
>is because the whole lot are evil?
Because they are Christians and Jews and you are Muslim. Me, I think all of ya are pretty much "evil" when you do something in the name of your religion.
JB
Quote from Copernicus:
Political support on international arena. the F16s, nukes cant be taken back.
Quote from ARogueTrader:
Israel should not be given any special favors or treatment.
There is this "favored" status in which we allow them to get away with shit that in many cases is unreasonable.
Their history, or the history of the Jews is as inconsequential as the history of the African Americans, or the American Indians, yet they play upon the holocaust as if it grants them a lifetime exemption from reasonable behavior.
Any type of decision making that is based in Biblical interpretation as it relates to politics is wrong.
I have no attachment to either the state of Israel or the state of Palestine.
They both are wrong in their behavior, and we should not support either side when they act like morons.
Quote from johnk49:
Yes you are right,Hitler didn't trust the church but that didn't stop him(as a Catholic)saying that by killing the Jews he was doing the work of God.Muslim fanatics who say the same in the name of their religion are no different!!
I'm a Muslim and I would never dream of harming any living creature and there are billions of Mulims like me.
Why is it that when a Christian or a Jew does something evil in the name of their religion it is simply because they are bad individuals,but when a muslim does the same it is because the whole lot are evil?
I haven't actually said the whole lot of Muslims are evil. Certainly, most muslims are decent people. But I am not going to hide from the fact that I have said, and that I maintain, that a very large proportion of Muslums are intolerant or, at the least, sympathize with the most radical, extreme followers of the religion. Indeed, hate and terrorism are being preached in scores of mosques in a myriad of countries, and religion is being used as the primary reason. This hate is being targeted at everything from whole other religions to whole other cultures (ie open and free societies, etc), with no respect for the right of others to live their lives and make personal choices as they please. But without a doubt, any person (muslim, christian, jew or other) who respects those who are themselves tolerant, should in no way be guilty by association.
Quote from axeman:
"When Hitler was gaining power and promoting an agenda of racism and military dominance, Winston Churchill urged his country and others to take preemptive action and remove Hitler from power. Many argued that we should not mettle in Germanyâs affairs, that we should instead strive for peace. Hitler was allowed to continue his quest, and 50 million people ultimately died because of one manâs evil quest for power. Some argue that it could have been avoided with preemptive action. That is why Churchill called WWII the "unnecessary war," feeling it could have been prevented years earlier with far less bloodshed.
"Churchill once told Roosevelt that he thought WWII should be called, "The Unnecessary War." He also said, "There never was a war more easy to stop than that which has just wrecked what was left for the world from the previous struggle." That this lesson has now been learned is not assured. The world powers are still prone to short term fixes, leaving volatile situations unsolved and unstable, possible flash points that could once again explode into violence, pulling the world into yet another conflict. "
How soon we forget.
To those who think we should just pull out of everywhere
and not "mettle" in other peoples business, please
address this issue.
Will the next Hitler be an islamic fundy? Hmmmmmm.....
Im with 50 cent....this is basically a war of philosophies.
They hate everything about our way of life.
Should we leave them alone until they become super powers?
Think this will save more lives in the long run?
peace
axeman
Exactly. Our biggest danger is appeasement.
Quote from Copernicus:
Quote from ARogueTrader:
Israel should not be given any special favors or treatment.
There is this "favored" status in which we allow them to get away with shit that in many cases is unreasonable.
Their history, or the history of the Jews is as inconsequential as the history of the African Americans, or the American Indians, yet they play upon the holocaust as if it grants them a lifetime exemption from reasonable behavior.
Any type of decision making that is based in Biblical interpretation as it relates to politics is wrong.
I have no attachment to either the state of Israel or the state of Palestine.
They both are wrong in their behavior, and we should not support either side when they act like morons.
I COULD HAVE NOT SAID IT ANY BETTER
Quote from darkhorse:
I really don't understand this line of thinking- the notion that free world leaders are somehow negligent if they "fan the flames of terrorism" by taking a stand.
If someone already hates your guts, how is it possible to make them any angrier? What are they going to say?
"That's the last straw... before we just wanted to kill you and your whole family, but man, now we REALLY want to kill you and your whole family."
You don't stop terrorists by getting them to see the light of reason. You stop them with determination and force. If they get more pissed, that's probably a sign that you're doing something right.
By the way, anyone think Bin Laden would be offering to 'negotiate' if we didn't have al qaeda's nuts in a vise?
Great points, as always!
Quote from splphil:
Right. I also rememeber a famous AP picture which looked like an Israeli cop was roughly shoving a Palestinian who had blood on his face, which was the gist of the AP caption. Only problem was, it was a picture of a Israeli cop pulling a Jewish student away from an Arab mob who beating him to death. SO it might be better not to quote "news cameras".
common!!
Quote from 50 cent:
about targeting children, as i mentioned before this is a cultural clash. some time ago a palestinian mother whose son was a suicide bomber was interviewed on cnn. she was delighted with pleasure about her son.
She was delighted that:
1. Her son has exploded (he is a "shahid" and is now in heaven).
2. Her son took quite a few people to heaven with him, or left them on earth mutilated.
A MOTHER is delighted that his SON is dead and a mass murderer. Double the pleasure.
This can only happen in Islam. There is no other culture on earth where this can happen. It doesn't happen in the animal kingdom either. Ever seen an animal mother joyful about the death of her cub or baby?
Actually, this is a regular occurrence, and a party is typically held afterwards by the party (paid for by Hamas).
As Golda Meir said, "There can never be peace so long as Palestinian mothers hate Jews more than they love their children."
Quote from Hello_Dollars:
splphil, I find that kind of idiotic moral relativism as exasperating as you do. However, it truly is held by only a very tiny fringe element here in the U.S. Unfortunately, it seems to hold wider sway among the Western Europeans. But perhaps they should be excused. After all, I can only imagine how difficult it must be for them emotionally and psychologically to have peaked as world powers many decades, if not centuries, ago, now being utterly irrelevant on the world stage. Rather reminds me of the former star high school quarterback who now pumps gas and stews in embittered longing for his glory days of yore. A lot of perverse thoughts can eminate from such minds.
You talking about my 4 TDs in one game at Polk High?