Build The Wall And Have Mexico Pay For It Indirectly?

gwb-trading said:
Calling for the murder of illegal immigrants due to the crime committed by one is very much over the top and inappropriate.
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Hogwash! "Invade" N. Korea or Iran... even if unintentional... and see what happens.

When did you turn Commie?

Defending sovereign borders by whatever means necessary... completely justified!
 
gwb-trading said:
Where is your sense of decency and empathy? There is a big difference between deporting and murdering people.
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Not applicable. Not saying "murder everybody"... just the invaders. (BTW... how does killing an invader meet the definition of "murder"? Was everyone killed in a war "murdered"? Just how is killing invaders qualified as "murder"?) Kill enough of them and the potential invaders will "get the message". Our illegal immigration problem is partly/mostly our own fault. Those parameters need to be revised.

By your logic, "if you allow one in (for empathy and decency) then you should allow everybody in". Not.

We've had for decades guidelines for legal immigration. Not against that. All else is invasion and can/should be righteously stopped if desired.

Illegal immigration could be stopped by having the border sufficiently manned so that every invader is immediately turned away. Nobody need be killed, of course. But if everybody is turned back, they'd eventually get the message to stop trying to invade our borders. I'd prefer that, of course. But if necessary, shooting a few would drive the message home a lot faster.

You act like we somehow "owe" the invaders something. We do not!

Bottom Line... I don't WANT anybody to get killed... but I want the invasion of American borders by illegals STOPPED!! Doubt I'll get my way, but that's my vote. Illegal immigration is an existential threat to the survival of America, and I don't want to see my country get destroyed. DUH!

I'm a patriot. Not backing down from that... ever!
 
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Scataphagos said:
Not applicable. Not saying "murder everybody"... just the invaders. Kill enough of them and the potential invaders will "get the message".

By your logic, "if you allow one in then you should allow everybody in". Not.

We've had for decades guidelines for legal immigration. Not against that. All else is invasion and can/should be righteously stopped if desired.
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crossing the border illegally is barely above a misdemeanor
 
Scataphagos said:
Couldn't we simply suspend foreign aid payments to Mexico and use that money for the wall?

If not, I recommend Trump man the border with our military and create a "wall of lead" for trespassers.
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The answer is no. Trump cannot take appropriated funds congress set aside for a specific purpose to fund a project congress has not even approved.

As to your wall of lead, that would be murder. I honestly don’t think you should be allowed to post murderous ideology on this or any other site. Call me anti free speech or whatever, I don’t care.

This country desperately needs to teach civics and basic law to its citizens. The fact that your entire statement is based on ignorance and abhorrent to the rule of law shows we are deeply failing the least among us from an educational standpoint.
 
Scataphagos said:
Not applicable. Not saying "murder everybody"... just the invaders. (BTW... how does killing an invader meet the definition of "murder"?) Kill enough of them and the potential invaders will "get the message". Our illegal immigration problem is partly/mostly our own fault. Those parameters need to be revised.

By your logic, "if you allow one in (for empathy and decency) then you should allow everybody in". Not.

We've had for decades guidelines for legal immigration. Not against that. All else is invasion and can/should be righteously stopped if desired.

Illegal immigration could be stopped by having the border sufficiently manned so that every invader is immediately turned away. Nobody need be killed, of course. But if everybody is turned back, they'd eventually get the message to stop trying to invade our borders. I'd prefer that, of course. But shooting a few would drive the message home a lot faster.

You act like we somehow "owe" the invaders something. We do not!
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This is the power of rhetoric.

Our dim witted poster, Scat, has been chugging the kool aid so hard he justifies murdering migrants by calling them “invaders.”

Scar, you need help. Seriously, turn off Fox News before you hurt someone.
 
Scataphagos said:
Not applicable. Not saying "murder everybody"... just the invaders. (BTW... how does killing an invader meet the definition of "murder"? Was everyone killed in a war "murdered"? Just how is killing invaders qualified as "murder"?) Kill enough of them and the potential invaders will "get the message". Our illegal immigration problem is partly/mostly our own fault. Those parameters need to be revised.

By your logic, "if you allow one in (for empathy and decency) then you should allow everybody in". Not.

We've had for decades guidelines for legal immigration. Not against that. All else is invasion and can/should be righteously stopped if desired.

Illegal immigration could be stopped by having the border sufficiently manned so that every invader is immediately turned away. Nobody need be killed, of course. But if everybody is turned back, they'd eventually get the message to stop trying to invade our borders. I'd prefer that, of course. But if necessary, shooting a few would drive the message home a lot faster.

You act like we somehow "owe" the invaders something. We do not!

Bottom Line... I don't WANT anybody to get killed... but I want the invasion of American borders by illegals STOPPED!! Doubt I'll get my way, but that's my vote. Illegal immigration is an existential threat to the survival of America, and I don't want to see my country get destroyed. DUH!

I'm a patriot. Not backing down from that... ever!
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These “invaders” are merely illegal immigrants. You cannot have any moral or legal justification for wholesale murder of illegal immigrants at the border.

Having decency and empathy implies treating them humanely. It does not imply you have to let them stay in the U.S.
 
gwb-trading said:
These “invaders” are merely illegal immigrants. You cannot have any moral or legal justification for wholesale murder of illegal immigrants at the border.

Having decency and empathy implies treating them humanely. It does not imply you have to let them stay in the U.S.
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Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. PERIOD! Whatever it takes. Shooting them, last resort of course. But a recourse nonetheless. We can either forcefully stop them or convince them to stop invading. Whatever it takes. Of course I'd prefer to convince them to stop invading... but what do you do when they don't?
 
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