Build The Wall And Have Mexico Pay For It Indirectly?

AAAintheBeltway said:
A country that was serious about enforcing immigration laws would of course have an effective physical barrier, but it would also remove the economic magnet drawing immigrants.

A few simple steps would make it virtually impossible for illegal immigrants to survive here. Mandatory e-verify would be at the top of the list, coupled with bans on illegals accessing any government assistance programs, bans on states issuing drivers' licenses or any other form of ID and bans on banks and financial institutions from opening accounts for anyone who cannot prove they are legal residents.

Seasonal workers, tourists and legal business and student visitors need to be tracked more closely to insure they do not overstay. If UPS can track millions of packages each year, there should be a way of doing this. One way is to require valid documentation to do any of the things associated with residency, eg opening bank accounts, renting or buying property, etc. Another is to heavily fine companies that hire people who abscond or cut back the number of workers they can sponsor.

None of this will happen because the elites running this country do not want it to happen. Perhaps they will change their minds when we have turned into Brazil and they have to live in compounds with barbed wire fences and hire private security to take their kids to school.
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Remove the magnet that draws them by the thousands! No more food stamps, welfare checks, housing, education, healthcare, no instant citizenship for babies born by illegals! You can check other countries policies and we are the only country granting automatic citizenship to babies born in the US! No other country does that! Not Japan, China, South Korea, even the socialist and communist countries of Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela. What about Mexico who criticizes our immigration policies? Hell, no! They do not grant automatic citizenship to babies born to foreigners in Mexico! Do that and a lot of these migrants would not come? Actually, they are all better off going to Europe where Merkel has flung the gates wide open!
 
smallfil said:
Remove the magnet that draws them by the thousands! No more food stamps, welfare checks, housing, education, healthcare, no instant citizenship for babies born by illegals! You can check other countries policies and we are the only country granting automatic citizenship to babies born in the US! No other country does that! Not Japan, China, South Korea, even the socialist and communist countries of Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela. What about Mexico who criticizes our immigration policies? Hell, no! They do not grant automatic citizenship to babies born to foreigners in Mexico! Do that and a lot of these migrants would not come? Actually, they are all better off going to Europe where Merkel has flung the gates wide open!
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Makes too much sense and would be far too effective. Can't have that.
 
Mexico would have demanded their money back by now.

Monsoon rain has torn apart Trump's border wall

"I will build a great wall—and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me—and I'll build them very inexpensively," Trump said when he announced his run for president in 2015. "I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."

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Several gates of the U.S.-Mexico border wall were damaged by monsoon flooding in recent days along the San Bernardino National Wildlife Refuge in Southern Arizona.
 
Scataphagos said:
Not applicable. Not saying "murder everybody"... just the invaders. (BTW... how does killing an invader meet the definition of "murder"? Was everyone killed in a war "murdered"? Just how is killing invaders qualified as "murder"?) Kill enough of them and the potential invaders will "get the message". Our illegal immigration problem is partly/mostly our own fault. Those parameters need to be revised.

By your logic, "if you allow one in (for empathy and decency) then you should allow everybody in". Not.

We've had for decades guidelines for legal immigration. Not against that. All else is invasion and can/should be righteously stopped if desired.

Illegal immigration could be stopped by having the border sufficiently manned so that every invader is immediately turned away. Nobody need be killed, of course. But if everybody is turned back, they'd eventually get the message to stop trying to invade our borders. I'd prefer that, of course. But if necessary, shooting a few would drive the message home a lot faster.

You act like we somehow "owe" the invaders something. We do not!

Bottom Line... I don't WANT anybody to get killed... but I want the invasion of American borders by illegals STOPPED!! Doubt I'll get my way, but that's my vote. Illegal immigration is an existential threat to the survival of America, and I don't want to see my country get destroyed. DUH!

I'm a patriot. Not backing down from that... ever!
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It would be an interesting debate if psychopaths like you should be locked up or treated. Certainly when you are advocating killing hundreds of other people on flimsy pretenses the danger to society is pretty clear.
 
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Nine_Ender said:
It would be an interesting debate if psychopaths like you should be locked up or treated. Certainly when you are advocating killing hundreds of other people on flimsy pretenses the danger to society is pretty clear.
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How did you get off my IGNORE list?
 
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