Al Brooks, I apologize..

Would a PhD in Psychology ease your concern?

Gringo

Do you take into account that db did not have a Psychology degree ?
I know of an economics graduate who got a PhD in psychology ( economic market operator psychology got him a PhD in psychology).
AND I totally respect - even if I do not agree, nor condone - with db's point of views. Including the Insight/Foreseigt threads.

Now one interesting question : why does providing evidences upset people?
I am checking 90% seemignly against it, 10% seemingly for it : any reasons for such a bias?

I would find it interesting to have as many people giving a go to a Combine, just for the fun.
Just the stats (P&L and the whole lot) are an eyeopener.
 
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I would find it interesting to have as many people giving a go to a Combine, just for the fun.
Just the stats (P&L and the whole lot) are an eyeopener.
What combines other than TopStep are there? Keep in mind that not everybody trades futures, or even wants to.
 
What combines other than TopStep are there? Keep in mind that not everybody trades futures, or even wants to.

Yep TopStep. There was a time where Patak was ready to allow any ET trader a free combine, as long as they agreed for a public thread on it.
Quiet a lot of ET traders gave it a try, with results we know of, and the offer was dropped due to lack of "volunteers" (there were many escuses). I, then, did not fully understand what these escuses meant, nor the real significance of a lack of "volunteers".
 
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Disagree with those who think someone should not post their P&L,when making claims to a method that has turned their trading around. Yes,the need for tangible proof may be requested by those still seeking,or it may be by those who know the proof is in the pudding.

IMHO,posting outstanding verifiable trading results has massive upside with zero downside.

I thought the conversation was about "request for live calls".

Anyways, what do you say about those that say a method does not work. Wouldn't there be a need for tangible proof that the say method isn't profitable. I'm not being sarcastic but I see more traders saying Al Brooks method doesn't work without providing a shred of evidence about their own use of the method. Once again, I'm not trying to be sarcastic...I think both sides of the coin should live by the same verification standard.

Yet, to be fair, this thread, I didn't assume the Op was saying he was profitable because he only said the following that didn't give me much info to make an assumption about consistent profitability:

1) Took my trading to the next level.

2) I fully understand his stuff.

3) I can't give him full credit.

4) He did made me realize I could be late to the party and still make a profit.

5) I've been at this for 8 years.


My point is that I know losing traders that say the same above when they see an improvement in their trading. Simply, the Op of this thread could be a losing trader, breakeven trader that has enough improvement in his trading that he concluded he was glad he made the effort to learn the method.

I think a few in this thread have reacted as if the guy said he was killing it, driving fancy sport cars with a sexy model girlfriend and living in Hampton. Yet, had he said that, I think its reasonable to request a pic of the girlfriend cuddling with him instead of his profit/loss statements. The girlfriend pic is all I would need.

Now lets change the question for the type of verification I would need.

Hey MarketAddict, has Al Brooks method improved your trading enough that sexy models are attracted to you ???

P.S. The sexy model girlfriend is sarcasm...nothing personal unless a pic gets posted. If that happen, I may request additional proof about the sexy model girlfriend such as private home videos considering we all know how pictures can be faked.
 
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I thought the conversation was about "request for live calls".

Anyways, what do you say about those that say a method does not work. Wouldn't there be a need for tangible proof that the say method isn't profitable. I'm not being sarcastic but I see more traders saying Al Brooks method doesn't work without providing a shred of evidence about their own use of the method. Once again, I'm not trying to be sarcastic...I think both sides of the coin should live by the same verification standard.

Yet, to be fair, this thread, I didn't assume the Op (thread started was profitable) because he only said the following:

1) Took my trading to the next level.

2) I fully understand his stuff.

3) I can't give him full credit.

4) He did made me realize I could be late to the party and still make a profit.

5) I've been at this for 8 years.


My point is that I know losing traders that say the same above when they see an improvement in their trading. Simply, the Op of this thread could be a losing trader, breakeven trader that has enough improvement in his trading that he concluded he was glad he made the effort to learn the method.

I think a few in this thread have reacted as if the guy said he was killing it, driving fancy sport cars with a sexy model girlfriend and living in Hampton. Yet, had he said that, I think its reasonable to request a pic of the girlfriend cuddling with him instead of his profit/loss statements. The girlfriend pic is all I would need.

Now lets change the question for the type of verification I would need.

Hey MarketAddict, has Al Brooks method improved your trading enough that sexy models are attracted to you ???

P.S. The sexy model girlfriend is sarcasm...nothing personal unless a pic gets posted.

What if he is spending more time at the hairsalon and beauty salon - like a male model"?

Let's not fool ourselves : MarketAddict could have said
- I was a loser, I am now Break-even : here are some stats
- I was a loser, I am now a winner : here are some stats
- I was a loser, I am still a loser with much better bla bla bla : here are some stats
would have been a first step in the right direction.
Instead, I am reading some ego assaulted by the mere mention of "evidence".
As one pointed out, MarketAddict, could also have said:
"Actually, I do not have any stats about it, it is just a FEELING that now my trading is going to get better". This would have provided clues to what he really got out of it.
 
No and I don't have any illusions about this ever happening, but I've said multiple times now how I were open about my own P&L when I was actively trading and people sought my advice.

And how were they to know that you didn't make it all up?

The OP claims that Al Brooks has been helpful to his trading, so is it unreasonable to ask if he's making money or not? I don't really care about his P&L, but it would be cool to know if it has actually improved his bottom line or if it is just that he FEELS it has improved his trading abilities.

And yet your first response was to ask for it.

You may want to think about that.
 
I thought the conversation was about "request for live calls".

Anyways, what do you say about those that say a method does not work. Wouldn't there be a need for tangible proof that the say method isn't profitable. I'm not being sarcastic but I see more traders saying Al Brooks method doesn't work without providing a shred of evidence about their own use of the method. Once again, I'm not trying to be sarcastic...I think both sides of the coin should live by the same verification standard.

Yet, to be fair, this thread, I didn't assume the Op was saying he was profitable because he only said the following that didn't give me much info to make an assumption about consistent profitability:

1) Took my trading to the next level.

2) I fully understand his stuff.

3) I can't give him full credit.

4) He did made me realize I could be late to the party and still make a profit.

5) I've been at this for 8 years.


My point is that I know losing traders that say the same above when they see an improvement in their trading. Simply, the Op of this thread could be a losing trader, breakeven trader that has enough improvement in his trading that he concluded he was glad he made the effort to learn the method.

I think a few in this thread have reacted as if the guy said he was killing it, driving fancy sport cars with a sexy model girlfriend and living in Hampton. Yet, had he said that, I think its reasonable to request a pic of the girlfriend cuddling with him instead of his profit/loss statements. The girlfriend pic is all I would need.

Now lets change the question for the type of verification I would need.

Hey MarketAddict, has Al Brooks method improved your trading enough that sexy models are attracted to you ???

P.S. The sexy model girlfriend is sarcasm...nothing personal unless a pic gets posted. If that happen, I may request additional proof about the sexy model girlfriend such as private home videos considering we all know how pictures can be faked.

Mark, I wish you'd stop being so reasonable. You're setting a good example. :)
 
What if he is spending more time at the hairsalon and beauty salon - like a male model"?

Let's not fool ourselves : MarketAddict could have said
- I was a loser, I am now Break-even : here are some stats
- I was a loser, I am now a winner : here are some stats
- I was a loser, I am still a loser with much better bla bla bla : here are some stats
would have been a first step in the right direction.
Instead, I am reading some ego assaulted by the mere mention of "evidence".
As one pointed out, MarketAddict, could also have said:
"Actually, I do not have any stats about it, it is just a FEELING that now my trading is going to get better". This would have provided clues to what he really got out of it.

End result being that next time he will think more than twice about saying anything at all, and nothing is accomplished by discouraging people from sharing their experiences other than to encourage them to stop posting entirely and perhaps even leave, as so many have, including professional traders.

A trading forum doesn't have to be the venue for gladitorial combat.
 
End result being that next time he will think more than twice about saying anything at all, and nothing is accomplished by discouraging people from sharing their experiences other than to encourage them to stop posting entirely and perhaps even leave, as so many have, including professional traders.

A trading forum doesn't have to be the venue for gladitorial combat.

Point 1: "gladitorial combat" : who would you say turned this into "gladitorial combat"?
It does not seem that those who asked for "evidence" did so

Point2: about discouraging him : I need to think about this.

Just a shame I have limited time. Have a great week-end. Take care.
 
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