Hmm you really make a good point on responsibility, on which I very much agree with you.
Still, condom leaks, birth control failure, all happens, what then?
Should I only have sex with chicks I want children with, should we pump her full of chemicals 2 weeks later.. well at that time she's fertilized all right. Or take the responsibility and put the shackles on with a 18 y.o. one night stand and my soon to be kid?
Interested in your opinion on that.
Tiki
Still, condom leaks, birth control failure, all happens, what then?
Should I only have sex with chicks I want children with, should we pump her full of chemicals 2 weeks later.. well at that time she's fertilized all right. Or take the responsibility and put the shackles on with a 18 y.o. one night stand and my soon to be kid?
Interested in your opinion on that.
Tiki
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OK, let me make a few points here. First of all ART, you keep talking about this as a religious issue. It is not. You keep talking about the Christian right, but are you not aware that the Roman Catholic Church is very pro life and very very democratic? Are you aware ART that many many people who are not even remotely religious are pro life?
And let me clarify something else here that many of you are missing. I am very much pro choice, just like the entire Republican party. We completely defend a woman's right to choose whether or not she should have sex and who she decides to have sex with. Absolutely man, I am very much pro choice. Now, once she chooses to have sex and suddenly there is an undesirable outcome, well that is where we differ. See, the woman already made her choice, now she doesn't like the outcome, so she wants another choice now. WTF man. How many choices does she get? At one point do we start holding people responsible for their actions? I mean can I rob a bank and say I'm sorry once I get caught? Can I rape a girl and say afterwards, hey man, I thought she wanted it and expect to get away with it? Can I drive a car under the influence and kill a family of 4 in an accident and blame it on the alcohol and say its not my fault? Can I kill someone I don't like and just blame it on my parents for not raising me right? I mean seriously, where we draw the line? At one point do we start talking about personal responsibility?
See liberals don't like to hear the word personal responsibility. That's why they support things like affirmative action. That's why they are soft on crime. Hey, it's not his fault, he was abused as a child. That's why they want to tax the rich and give it to the poor. Hey, it's too hard for the poor people to make money, we'll just take it from the rich since they have too much and give it to the poor. And when it comes to abortion they say, well, the girl didn't mean to get pregnant, it's not her fault, let her kill her baby.
I tell you man, liberals need to understand personal responsibility. Abortion is not about religion, it's about personal responsibility. All women have a choice what to do with their bodies. If I have to be responsible for my actions, then they have to be responsible for theirs, it's that simple.
We can't just call timeout in life when things happen that we don't like. If I lose all my money trading I can't cry for a do over and get my money back. The money is gone. We all make mistakes in life and we all have to pay a price for them, that's called life. That's how we learn. What kind of society would we have if we never had to pay for our mistakes? Think about it ART, just think about it.