A real edge hardly requires any testing

[ma_trader]

I've found mine through data and "testing". Also testing gives you invaluable metrics which you cannot find out by philosophizing while smoking a cigar.

No amount of testing will give a decent enough solution to neatly deal with whipsaws in a chart...

Testing is nothing more than parameter optimization, for a dataset, whereas a successful trader beats the market with a concept,

 

[Sig]

If you don't understand something, it becomes a 'load of crap'..!! Thats great approach..!!

No, it's precisely because we understand it and the OP clearly doesn't that it's a "load of crap". The boundless arrogance of the young and the novice are familiar to those of us who were once young and novice for a reason

 

[ma_trader]

Quite frankly I have difficulty believing one word of your theories.

I agree ...i think we depend on ideas/concepts on external sources, that severely limits our capabilities to come up with better ideas..

 

[themickey]

...i think we depend on ideas/concepts on external sources, that severely limits our capabilities to come up with better ideas..

I agree with that

 

[ma_trader]

No, it's precisely because we understand it and the OP clearly doesn't that it's a "load of crap". The boundless arrogance of the young and the novice are familiar to those of us who were once young and novice for a reason

Arrogance precisely is in your admission of calling it crap because of your lack of understanding..!! Anyways, thanks for the discussion, I never wanted to assert anything, just that its an idea worth exploring.

 

[themickey]

Arrogance precisely is in your admission of calling it crap because of your lack of understanding..!! Anyways, thanks for the discussion, I never wanted to assert anything, just that its an idea worth exploring.

Oh! My lack of understanding? And perhaps everyone else on ET bar you?

 

[ma_trader]

Oh! My lack of understanding? And perhaps everyone else on ET bar you?

Sorry but I think calling something crap without questions/exploration points to a lack of understanding.

 

[Sig]

Arrogance precisely is in your admission of calling it crap because of your lack of understanding..!! Anyways, thanks for the discussion, I never wanted to assert anything, just that its an idea worth exploring.

You could assert the Earth is flat and I'd call it a crap assertion, is that because I don't understand it or because you're making an absurd assertion? You could say that the proper way to recover from a spin in an airplane is to apply full opposite aileron and I'd call it a crap assertion, is that because my many years as a professional pilot lead to my inability to understand or would it be because you're making a crap assertion. We could go on all day with assertions that education and experience lead those of us with experience and education to call crap, again precisely because we understand the subject and you don't. If you call that arrogance, we'll get back to me in a few years and let me know if you still feel the same way. Once again, we have an advantage over you in that we once were you. Funny how both my teenager and you seem to be incapable of grasping that, way of the world for my teenager because of brain development and all, but not strictly necessary for the novice.

 

[themickey]

Quite frankly I have difficulty believing one word of your theories.

Sorry but I think calling something crap without questions/exploration points to a lack of understanding.

Those were my words.
What it basically pertains to was a lot of words, buzzwords, technical jargo without actually saying something.
To me it smacks of noob talk, we get a lot of that, trying to impress.

 

[themickey]

An edge picked out of a chart like a head and shoulder pattern is much better than an edge brute-searched over a dataset , an edge should have a concept that can be exploited, testing is not going to give you a concept, a little different way of thinking you may say

Gobbledegook.