47 million are without health insurance in U.S.
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maybe those lardasses with diabetes should have taken better care of themselves when they were younger? i know some fatasses who, when they'll turn 50, will see insane premiums because they've destroyed their bodies in their 20s and 30s. who should be paying their bills, if not them?
sure, there are some people born with diabetes and other conditions. anyone with a brain, though, would recognize that if they had a congenital condition, they'd better SAVE UP for it starting at age 18. or did they expect to be able to pay $100,000 in premiums lifetime to get $700,000 worth of medical care? what a great deal! i wish i could pay $1500 for homeowner's insurance the day after my million-dollar home burned to the ground.
sure, there are some people born with diabetes and other conditions. anyone with a brain, though, would recognize that if they had a congenital condition, they'd better SAVE UP for it starting at age 18. or did they expect to be able to pay $100,000 in premiums lifetime to get $700,000 worth of medical care? what a great deal! i wish i could pay $1500 for homeowner's insurance the day after my million-dollar home burned to the ground.
This is as clear as it gets: the rational, trained in mathematics person knows if you leave 47 million out of an insurance pool, that's 47 million less to spread the costs around, 47 million fewer customers for prescriptions, surgeries, etc, and so on.
The right, OTOH, wants to divide and conquer so as to serve the power needs of the upper reaches: not their economic needs, their power needs. If you've inherited your money, which the vast vast majority of the far upper portions of the income distribution have, you're not at all educated in how to make money. You are, however, very well educated in power. So that's what you concentrate on keeping. And to do that, you follow Napoleon: divide and conquer.
I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. You're saying that
if government were smaller there'd be no reason to corrupt it?
Government is the only cop on the beat that even ...might keep businesses from doing all those things that regulations are in place for. The size of government in theory if not practise is proportional to the need to hold the line on abusing the public's right to not have their water polluted or their chicken salmonela tainted -- I'm assuming here you're for those things. It'd be nice to go back to a bygone era where we still had the corner store deli where I used to go for popsicles and pinball when I was a kid but that's never coming back nor is that
zeitgeist. America is no longer a growth stock we're Microsoft. Businesses don't grow or not as a reaction to the size of government. If anything the opposite of what you contend is true, that government regualtion slows business from expanding.
The lack of faith you express in the possibility of honest regulators I share except mine is aimed at honest profit motivated business and esp. where spreading wealth is concerned or even rewarding contribution to their success. I think if we left it at that we disagree as to who can or should be trusted its about as much mind changing as is going to happen here. I do appreciate the civility though.
Then be consistent,
Make all corporations pay the same taxes, disallow all business tax deductions, close all loop holes. Disallow all settlements for crimes... cut out all resale tax exemptions, cut out all local tax breaks given to companies. Require all state, local and federal govt to operate within balanced budgets.
Disallow C corp tax treatment and make all pass through.
Would it not make more sense to simply tax all transactions made in dollars world wide a flat 10% tax? We get everyone this way.. all foreign corps and transactions outside of this country.
Make all corporations pay the same taxes, disallow all business tax deductions, close all loop holes. Disallow all settlements for crimes... cut out all resale tax exemptions, cut out all local tax breaks given to companies. Require all state, local and federal govt to operate within balanced budgets.
Disallow C corp tax treatment and make all pass through.
Would it not make more sense to simply tax all transactions made in dollars world wide a flat 10% tax? We get everyone this way.. all foreign corps and transactions outside of this country.
