2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :-)

US used sabotage to protect Ukraine.
None of this proxy war would have happened under Trump.

Trump would have congratulated Putin for the smart move of a genocide on the people in Ukraine, and asked him if he needs anything.
 
Because it wouldn't be the first time Putin orchestrated a false-flag-type operation, to gain advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

https://www.businessinsider.com/how...t-bombings-led-to-putins-rise-to-power-2018-3

I don't know how old you are, I remember reading the news back then. Putin had already been chosen by Yeltsin as acting prime minister and a successor to become the president before the bombings. False Flag or not, no one really knows.
 
I don't know how old you are, I remember reading the news back then. Putin had already been chosen by Yeltsin as acting prime minister and a successor to become the president before the bombings. False Flag or not, no one really knows.
...He quickly became the most popular politician in Russia, even though before the apartment bombings, he was believed to have had no chance to succeed Yeltsin as president.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/putins-way/transcript/

https://www.cia.gov/static/e530e07b076ddbdf52c095ff7b58ad2f/Mr-Putin.pdf

The dots are close enough to connect given Putin's nature and past deeds.
 
Why would the US hack the mobile phone of the German prime Minister (and probably the ones of countless other leaders), you know, the country in Europe that is supposedly one of the US's closest ally? Care to explain? After all we need to stand together right? See, saying one thing and doing another is the textbook definition of a hypocrite.

And how does the US profit from the explosion of an already abandoned gas pipeline? Why would the US actually warn Germany in advance that sabotage of this pipeline is coming? Why would the US attack NATO partners and the EU in times when we need to stand together?

The US is probably the last to have any reason at all. Well, maybe the Bermuda Islands have even fewer motives. Not sure about that though.

But as I said, it doesn't make much of a difference what you think anyway, because everyone involved knows already that it's 0% US and 100% Russia.
 
You don't know what you are talking about, John. As of this month Germany is arranging for a 5th floating LNG terminal to go online. Your claim is incorrect. Then there was still gas streaming through the pipelines, though a drop in the bucket. Your claim of nil going through is also factually incorrect. Then in case you know anything about the European natural resource infrastructure, lng lines in Germany and all of Europe are well interconnected to 5 major hubs. Spain has a large lng terminal but its routes to France are bottlenecked. Up to earlier this year the number one importer of lng into Europe was and still is the US, then Qatar, then Russia. Though the majority came in through the pipelines. The pipelines transported a multiple of gas into Europe than any lng terminal, even the one in corpus Christi could ever produce.

How do I phrase it, so you can understand it? There was NO gas coming to Germany from Russia. Russia didn't deliver ANY gas at all to Germany anymore. NS 1+2 were completely dead. Zero output. And Germany doesn't have even a single LNG terminal. The amount of gas coming from US to Germany is zero as well.

And yet, the German gas tanks are at 91% full and still filling up each and every day. Because Norway raised their gas production substantially. That's it. End of story.

If there would be some crazy US conspiracy going on to take over the gas market in Europe, they should have bombed the pipeline from Norway. There was no gas from Russia. Pretty stupid, isn't it?
 
Way better than the chaos Biden wrecked now with Ukraine proxy support and abandonment of loyal supporters in Afghanistan. Will never forget the images of how us military planes departed Kabul and other airports with Afghan loyal CIA and US Army supporters left behind to face near certain persecution and death. Great administration you got there.

Trump would have congratulated Putin for the smart move of a genocide on the people in Ukraine, and asked him if he needs anything.
 
You can google the timeline yourself, back before the internet bubble.

The Russian apartment bombings were a series of five bombings in Russia that took place in Moscow and two other Russian towns during ten days of September 1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_allegedly_involved_in_Russian_apartment_bombings

He [Putin] briefly served as director of the Federal Security Service (FSB) and secretary of the Security Council, before being appointed as prime minister in August 1999. After the resignation of Yeltsin, Putin became acting president and, less than four months later, was elected outright to his first term as president.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

The 2000 Russian presidential election was held on 26 March 2000.[1] Incumbent prime minister and acting president Vladimir Putin, who had succeeded Boris Yeltsin after his resignation on 31 December 1999, was seeking a four-year term in his own right and won the elections in the first round.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Russian_presidential_election

Putin became prime minister: August 1999.
Apartment Bombings: September 1999.
Putin became acting president: January 2000.
Putin was elected(!) into office: March 2000.

Yes, Putin was said to have no chance to be elected as president, BEFORE he staged the bombings to go to war.
 
You don't know what you are talking about, John. As of this month Germany is arranging for a 5th floating LNG terminal to go online. Your claim is incorrect. Then there was still gas streaming through the pipelines, though a drop in the bucket. Your claim of nil going through is also factually incorrect. Then in case you know anything about the European natural resource infrastructure, lng lines in Germany and all of Europe are well interconnected to 5 major hubs. Spain has a large lng terminal but its routes to France are bottlenecked. Up to earlier this year the number one importer of lng into Europe was and still is the US, then Qatar, then Russia. Though the majority came in through the pipelines. The pipelines transported a multiple of gas into Europe than any lng terminal, even the one in corpus Christi could ever produce.

I'm just a German, living in Germany. But what do I know about Germany.

I say this again: Germany does not have LNG terminals. Full stop. And there was NO GAS AT ALL WHATSOEVER going through Nord Stream 1+2. NONE. Full stop.

Now you can do anything you want with this information. Probably you want to discuss this with "alternative facts" to infinity, to distract from what the original point was: it doesn't make ANY sense for ANYONE else in the world to sabotage an already abandoned NS 1+2, other than Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
 
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