Zen, Yoga, Meditation and Trading

Quote from zdreg:

"Jews - suprimacy of the people."
this is proof that you need to enhance your knowledge before posting.. you don't know the definition of the chosen people. it is not that jews are better than other people but that they haven been chosen by god to lead other people into god's way by acting as an example. by the way jews do not proselytize or attempt to convert others to judiasim.

No,it is just you a bigger idiot for bringing it up!God is transcendent to any living being.He is transcendent to the demons even.There is no such thing as ''chosen by God" people or nation.Sure you are just too dumb to get it.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Rather than working on tuning out consciousness, traders should work on strengthening it and your abilities. surf

If I am not wrong, I don't think they are talking about tuning out consciousness but rather using consciousness to shape the material world rather than the other way around. With consciousness, we create our own reality. However that is not the ultimate understanding as ordinary consciousness is in fact only a complex compound of constantly changing mental states. The false belief that this temporal assemblage forms some kind of immutable and enduring self or soul may even become a cause of much unhappiness. In other words, our ordinary common-sense idea that we each possess an independent conscious self is an illusion.

I think this is what they are trying to say anyway. Maybe the experts can elucidate further?
 
Quote from Shanb:

Curious, do you practice Yoga, meditation, or similar arts?

No, actually quite the opposite. I believe in strengthening the self in a softened ayn rand /nietzschian type philosophy. I did the eastern route and its empty. surf
 
Quote from Grandluxe:

If I am not wrong, I don't think they are talking about tuning out consciousness but rather using consciousness to shape the material world rather than the other way around. With consciousness, we create our own reality. However that is not the ultimate understanding as ordinary consciousness is in fact only a complex compound of constantly changing mental states. The false belief that this temporal assemblage forms some kind of immutable and enduring self or soul may even become a cause of much unhappiness. In other words, our ordinary common-sense idea that we each possess an independent conscious self is an illusion.

I think this is what they are trying to say anyway. Maybe the experts can elucidate further?

I am diametrically opposite of believing that the self causes unhappiness-- embrace consciousness, control the self don't dismiss it. In other words, take your instincts by the reigns.

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

I am diametrically opposite of believing that the self causes unhappiness-- embrace consciousness, control the self don't dismiss it. In other words, take your instincts by the reigns.

surf

LMAO
 
Quote from TheMagican:

LMAO


Laugh all you wish friend. Happiness/contentment is within all of us, and its not from suppressing or superseding the self with dogma or behavioral routines.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Laugh all you wish friend. Happiness/contentment is within all of us, and its not from suppressing or superseding the self with dogma or behavioral routines.

Yea...for each level of consciousness there is its own institute.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

No, actually quite the opposite. I believe in strengthening the self in a softened ayn rand /nietzschian type philosophy. I did the eastern route and its empty. surf

What do you consider the self?

In Yoga and other eastern practices the self is distinct from the ego. The ego is usually considered the self in the west, so I can see where there is some confusion. The ego is seen as a mental construct that seeks to perpetuate its own existence. The ego is a blinder in a sense because it distorts your perception of events in order to strengthen its own existence.

Yoga is a practice that allows you to transcend the bounds of ego and experience reality for what is. Being empty or present is nothing more then being in tune with what is actually going on around you. That is true consciousness!
 
Quote from TheMagican:

No,it is just you a bigger idiot for bringing it up!God is transcendent to any living being.He is transcendent to the demons even.There is no such thing as ''chosen by God" people or nation.Sure you are just too dumb to get it.

you started that train of thought by incorrectly describing judiasim. as i go through my meditation i will transcend the noise that you post on this thread.
 
Quote from zdreg:

you started that train of thought by incorrectly describing judiasim. as i go through my meditation i will transcend the noise that you post on this thread.

Now the feelings is off screen and the tears for real,not acted,anymo-o-o-ore.....

:D :cool: :eek: :p :confused: :mad: :)
 
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