How about Putin and the Russians stop invading other sovereign democratic nations and engaging in thousands of war crimes.
Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas
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How about Putin and the Russians stop invading other sovereign democratic nations and engaging in thousands of war crimes.
Is potato.
The problem with what GWB calls living is that a coward dies a thousand deaths...
Knowing that it was their own rocket which struck the hospital, Hamas has now scrubbed the site of any rocket debris and is claiming "Nothing is left" -- it has all been "vaporized". Despite photos showing plenty of shrapnel from the rocket in the building and parking lot after the explosion.
Of course, these Hamas terrorists are still claiming it was an Israeli munition despite many western intelligence agencies coming out and stating unequivocally it was not.
'Nothing Is Left': Hamas Says Evidence That Israel Struck Hospital Is Conveniently 'Vaporized'
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/...el-struck-hospital-is-conveniently-vaporized/
Hamas, which has claimed without evidence that Israel is behind the blast at a Gaza hospital that the terrorist group said left hundreds dead, says any remnants of the munition can't be examined because they vanished entirely.
"The missile has dissolved like salt in the water," Ghazi Hamad, a Hamas official, told the New York Times on Sunday. "It’s vaporized. Nothing is left."
After Ahli Arab hospital was hit by a weapon last week, Hamas immediately blamed Israel and claimed the blast left more than 450 people dead. Israel, however, provided evidence, including the lack of structural damage at the hospital and intercepted Hamas communications, that indicates the blast was caused not by an Israeli airstrike but by a misfired rocket from the Palestinian terrorist group Islamic Jihad. Israel's assessment has been affirmed by U.S. intelligence and other Western countries that reviewed the evidence. Israel has also disputed the high death toll claimed by Hamas.
Gazan officials have provided no evidence that Israel is behind the blast, the Times reported:
On Sunday, Hamas turned down requests by The Times to view any available evidence of the munition it said had struck the hospital, claiming that it had disintegrated beyond recognition.
Salama Maroof, the head of the Hamas-run government media office, said in a text message: "Who says we’re obligated to present the remnants of every rocket that kills our people? In general, you can come and research and confirm for yourself from the evidence we possess."
Four military and munitions experts who spoke to NBC News last week agreed that the blast was not caused by an Israeli strike. One said "remnants of the munition recovered from the rubble" could confirm which party is responsible.
Hamas Fails to Make Case That Israel Struck Hospital
A senior Hamas official says “nothing is left” of the munition that hit the Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza City last week, killing hundreds. Israel says the explosion was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hospital-evidence.html
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Which means that all evidence that Hamas struck the hospital is also completely vaporized.
How convenient.
I looked and looked at various images and talked to a military friend more familiar with missiles and the associated sounds. He knows his artillary and mortars very well.
1. The direct impact is too small, a guided missile would make a substantial crater and an artillary shell would have made a larger one than is evident.
2. Theres too much burning and not enough fragmentation evident in the cars and buildings. It seems that this is a fuel explosion. Given the type of relatively slow burning solid propellant mix used in a Gaza homemade rocket this makes sense some would have survived but when the cylinder smashed it would have gone up.
3. The sound indicated a rapidly spinning body that was subsonic.
Being as impartial as I can I'd say it was a "Quassam" rocket that was clipped by the Iron Dome and part of the propellant section hit the hospital. The thing I'd like to do is get accurate distance measurements to confirm the time from the breakup to ground but assuming the low number, 300 dead then a thermobaric (vacuum) explosion could kill that many without a lot of structural damage.
1. The direct impact is too small, a guided missile would make a substantial crater and an artillary shell would have made a larger one than is evident.
2. Theres too much burning and not enough fragmentation evident in the cars and buildings. It seems that this is a fuel explosion. Given the type of relatively slow burning solid propellant mix used in a Gaza homemade rocket this makes sense some would have survived but when the cylinder smashed it would have gone up.
3. The sound indicated a rapidly spinning body that was subsonic.
Being as impartial as I can I'd say it was a "Quassam" rocket that was clipped by the Iron Dome and part of the propellant section hit the hospital. The thing I'd like to do is get accurate distance measurements to confirm the time from the breakup to ground but assuming the low number, 300 dead then a thermobaric (vacuum) explosion could kill that many without a lot of structural damage.
The media just ignores the fact that Israel first claimed responsibility for the hospital.
Most evidence points to a Hamas rocket. I posted a "likely Israeli artillery claim" by "experts" on twitter to showcase how fucking dumb it's to use twitter for sourcing. If we scrutinized all the antivax and pro-Russia shit coming out of that cesspool, I don't see why it ought to be different for this conflict. I also don't buy anything coming out of the IDF, Hamas run health authorities, or Western press at large w/o a presence inside Gaza not just relying on hearsay. There's very little in the region that one could consider "impartial".
I don't buy for a second "hundreds" died in a parking lot strike, but I'm as equally suspicious about 40 intentional beheaded infants.
As soon as USA stops it's terrorism around the world we can talk about Putin