Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

[Bugenhagen]

Hamas is about to find out why Americans don’t have healthcare.

For the same reason they have not so it won't be a surprise.

Stop watching Fox.

 

[Bugenhagen]

This gives a plausible narrative, as usual it's a cluster fuck of several things at once.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/significance-hamas-chose-attack-israel-now-rcna119351

Attacking Hamas is just killing the sock. As usual it's a proxy fight and the US as usual won't take on anybody that can hurt them directly.

 

[Spike Trader]

You need to take your dried frog pills and wait a couple of days before you think you know something.

I'm saying is that Israel has a history of baiting/tricking opponents into attacks and then pouncing.

 

[themickey]

If a trader or institution had a detailed and lengthy written trading plan but all it did in practise was fail time and again in its practical execution, what would you do with it?

Likewise in Israel you have a centre of religion called Jerusalem, where the Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam devote their attention, all making a claim this is their Capital City and where a message had come from God to follow him and his teachings.

Meanwhile throughout its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, captured and recaptured 44 times, and attacked 52 times not including this weekend.

So for all the prayers which have failed to bring peace, think of this as a Trading Plan which constantly loses money.

But humans are weak and stupid.
Because the religous paperwork / manuscripts have the word 'God' in it, gullible humans will believe in it and continue to buy the snake oil.
America is a champion believing Jewish and Christian bullshit.

If you really want to succeed in this life as a scammer, I'd suggest target religous people with a 'God' messsge, it would be 1000 times easier for making a buck than trading.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Here is a timeline of the clashes between Palestinian militants and Israel.
The relentless and deadly conflict has persisted for decades.


By Emma Bubola

• Published Oct. 7, 2023Updated Oct. 8, 2023, 5:36 a.m. ET

The scale and complexity of Saturday’s attacks by Hamas shocked leaders across the world. They came after decades of a relentless and deadly conflict that has killed thousands of people, forced entire generations to grow up under occupation, or created constant anxiety of impending rocket fire or bombings.

Here is a summary of the main events of the conflict, which spans two centuries.

• On several occasions this year, hundreds of Israeli forces carried out military raids in the Palestinian city of Jenin. In January, a Palestinian man killed seven people at a synagogue in East Jerusalem.
  
  
• After a spate of terrorist attacks in Israeli cities in 2022, Israeli forces killed at least 166 Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
  
  
• In May 2021, the Israeli police raided Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, the third-holiest site in Islam, which set off an 11-day war between Israel and Hamas that killed more than 200 Palestinians and more than 10 Israelis.
  

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Israeli police entering the Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem in 2021.Credit...Ahmad Gharabli/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

• In 2018, at least 170 Palestinians were killed as Israel responded to protests along the barrier fence that separates Gaza and Israel.
  
  
• In 2014, Hamas kidnapped and killed three Israeli teenagers, prompting attacks from Israel, and rocket launches from Gaza, in a conflict that killed more than 1,881 Palestinians and more than 60 Israelis.
  
  
• In November 2012, Israel killed Ahmed al-Jabari, Hamas’s military chief, setting off more than a week of an exchange of fire in which more than 150 Palestinians and at least six Israelis are killed.
  
  
• In January 2009, Israel and Palestinian groups declared unilateral cease-fires, then Israel withdrew from Gaza, and redeployed to the Strip’s perimeter.
  
  
• In response to rocket fire from Gaza, Israel launched an attack on Hamas targets in December 2008 that killed 200 Palestinians. Shortly after, they opened a ground war against Hamas. In total, 1,200 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed.
  
  
• In January 2006, about a year after the death of the Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat, the co-founder of the paramilitary organization Fatah, Hamas won the Palestinian parliamentary election. One year later, Hamas seized control of Gaza, routing the Fatah forces.
  

Hamas militants in Gaza City in 2007.Credit...Mahmud Hams/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

• In September 2005, Israeli troops pulled out of Gaza, but Israel came under criticism for restricting the movement of Palestinians coming in and out of the strip.
  
  
• In September 2000, a few months after negotiations between Israel and Palestine reached an impasse at Camp David, a Second Intifada began, with Palestinian youth throwing stones at Israeli police. Support for Hamas continued to grow within Palestine because of its readiness to fight Israel.
  
  
• In 1997, two suicide bomb attacks killed 27 people, and Israel’s prime minister, Shimon Peres, said he would wage an incessant war against Hamas.
  
  
• In 1993, Mr. Arafat signed the Oslo accords with Israel, and committed to negotiating an end to the conflict based on a two-state solution. Hamas, which opposed the deal, launched a series of suicide bombings in Israel.
  

The Oslo peace accords were signed on Sept. 13, 1993, in a ceremony on the White House lawn.Credit...Paul Hosefros/The New York Times

• In December 1987, Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza started the First Intifada against Israel. Muslim Brotherhood members founded Hamas.
  
  
• On March 26, 1979, Egypt and Israel signed a peace treaty at the White House which led to Israel’s complete withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula. The two countries agreed on the framework of an agreement to allow for self-rule for Palestinians living in occupied territories. Three years later, President Reagan expressed his support for their full autonomy with some Jordanian supervision, but Israel rejected the plan.
  
  
• On Yom Kippur in October 1973, invading forces from Egypt and Syria tried to persuade Israel to negotiate better terms for the Arab countries. Nearly 2,700 Israeli soldiers died in the 19-day war and thousands were injured out of a population of about 3 million at the time.
  
  
• In June 1967, during the Six-Day War, Israel gained control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula.
  

Israeli fighter jets flying over Sinai on the first day of the Six-Day War in 1967.Credit...Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

• In January 1957, Israel withdrew from Egyptian land, except from the Gaza Strip and the area of the Gulf of Aqaba, arguing that the Gaza Strip never belonged to Egypt.
  
  
• In October 1956, a few months after the Egyptian president nationalized the Suez Canal waterway, cutting off Israel from shipping, Israel invaded the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza Strip. In November that year, the United Nations called for Britain, France and Israel to withdraw their troops from Egypt.
  
  
• In 1949, the newly created State of Israel signed a series of truces with Arab countries that had declared war on it. Under the 1949 agreements, the Gaza Strip was under Egypt’s control
  

 

[Bugenhagen]

 

[gwb-trading]

At this point, let's simply straight what is very clear. Hamas are terrorists. Iran is funding and arming this group to attack Israel. Hamas has no interest in peace with Israel but simply in inflecting as much harm as possible on Israelis -- not caring an iota inflected on the residents of Gaza while Hamas pursues its violent agenda.

Hamas took over Gaza by force evicting the Palestinian National Authority - which is the legitimate government authority for the West Bank and Gaza. Hamas, a terrorist group, needs to be eliminated in Gaza and control returned to the Palestinian National Authority.

While progress has been slow in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian National Authority -- progress has been made over time. Furthermore, the Palestinian National Authority is focused on helping the people rather than inflicting violent terror on Israel.

Certainly I recognize there is a long history in this conflict, and fault can be found on both sides. However the first step in making any progress now is totally eliminating Hamas in Gaza -- and clearly (and unfortunately) at this point it will take an all out war to do so.

 

[Tony Stark]

First step should be Israel to stop antagonizing and stealing Palestinian land,return Palestinian land they have stolen and get that piece of shit Netanyahu out of office and get rid of the rest of the right wing Israeli government.

 

[gwb-trading]

Not only Iran... Hamas met with Russian leaders in March, 2023. Of course, we assume this was just a fun holiday to scenic Moscow and has nothing to do with the events of today .

Hamas sent high-level delegation to Moscow at Russia’s invitation
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...l-delegation-to-moscow-at-russias-invitation/

 

[Bugenhagen]

First step should be Israel to stop antagonizing and stealing Palestinian land,return Palestinian land they have stolen and get that piece of shit Netanyahu out of office and get rid of the rest of the right wing Israeli government.

The ultras are just impossible as they can't even live harmoniously with other normal Jews or other factions. Of course people in Gaza are disposed to be pawns in a proxy war.

Their whole approach is to gradually ratchet or twist a garotte over time. Even if you forgot about atrocities caused by settlers, just what they do with other Israelis (and Christians) is painful to watch and Benny in bed with them?

https://youtube.com/shorts/7TwEQX6zwUI?si=X0HErFGpDCBU4GL7