"Top lying US diplomat Antony Blinken" who is primarily trying to influence US elections.....
Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas
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This is an interesting article about a survey in the West Bank where the large majority of people identify more with their clan rather than with "Palestinian people". Traditionally the Muslim society in Palestine area have been very associated with their clan rather than the broader Arab society. This tribalism can be seen in fictional books such as The Source by James Michener and historical accounts such as "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" covering T.E. Lawrence attempting to establish an Arab national state in the region.
Only 20% of West Bank Palestinians feel connected to the Palestinian people - poll
The survey also explored other key issues, such as the overwhelming opposition to obtaining Israeli citizenship.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-815793
Only 20% of Palestinians in the West Bank feel a strong connection to the Palestinian people, highlighting a significant shift in national identity.
The survey was conducted by the Israel Centre for Grand Strategy and published exclusively by N12.
It was conducted before the events of October 7, yet still underscores the growing trend of young Palestinians identifying more with their family clans than with broader Palestinian nationalism.
According to the survey, 65% of respondents said they primarily identify with their family clan, with this sentiment being particularly strong among younger Palestinians aged 18-35, 76% of whom expressed a stronger connection to their clan than to the Palestinian national identity.
Growing support for Hamas
Dr. Ori Wertman, a research fellow at the Israel Centre for Grand Strategy and a lecturer at the University of South Wales in the UK, told N12 that the survey "presents a very interesting picture of the Palestinians in the West Bank, touching on aspects different from those, for example, examined by Shikaki."
Wertman added that Hamas has gained significant support in the West Bank, further weakening the influence of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority. He predicts that the trend of radicalization among Palestinians in the West Bank will continue to increase.
The survey also explored other key issues, such as the overwhelming opposition to obtaining Israeli citizenship. A majority of 68% of respondents are against acquiring citizenship, with this opposition becoming stronger with age. Among those aged 60 and above, 86% oppose the idea, compared to 62% of younger respondents.
Additionally, the survey highlighted that 53% of Palestinians in the West Bank prefer strengthening ties with Jordan, while only 4% feel a connection to Iran, despite Iran's efforts to position itself as a champion of the Palestinian cause in the Muslim world.
The survey, conducted by Stat-Net, included respondents from 11 cities in the West Bank, including Hebron, Nablus, east Jerusalem, and Ramallah. It provides a detailed snapshot of Palestinian attitudes toward Israel, their national identity, and possible solutions to their economic and social challenges.
Only 20% of West Bank Palestinians feel connected to the Palestinian people - poll
The survey also explored other key issues, such as the overwhelming opposition to obtaining Israeli citizenship.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-815793
Only 20% of Palestinians in the West Bank feel a strong connection to the Palestinian people, highlighting a significant shift in national identity.
The survey was conducted by the Israel Centre for Grand Strategy and published exclusively by N12.
It was conducted before the events of October 7, yet still underscores the growing trend of young Palestinians identifying more with their family clans than with broader Palestinian nationalism.
According to the survey, 65% of respondents said they primarily identify with their family clan, with this sentiment being particularly strong among younger Palestinians aged 18-35, 76% of whom expressed a stronger connection to their clan than to the Palestinian national identity.
Growing support for Hamas
Dr. Ori Wertman, a research fellow at the Israel Centre for Grand Strategy and a lecturer at the University of South Wales in the UK, told N12 that the survey "presents a very interesting picture of the Palestinians in the West Bank, touching on aspects different from those, for example, examined by Shikaki."
Wertman added that Hamas has gained significant support in the West Bank, further weakening the influence of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority. He predicts that the trend of radicalization among Palestinians in the West Bank will continue to increase.
The survey also explored other key issues, such as the overwhelming opposition to obtaining Israeli citizenship. A majority of 68% of respondents are against acquiring citizenship, with this opposition becoming stronger with age. Among those aged 60 and above, 86% oppose the idea, compared to 62% of younger respondents.
Additionally, the survey highlighted that 53% of Palestinians in the West Bank prefer strengthening ties with Jordan, while only 4% feel a connection to Iran, despite Iran's efforts to position itself as a champion of the Palestinian cause in the Muslim world.
The survey, conducted by Stat-Net, included respondents from 11 cities in the West Bank, including Hebron, Nablus, east Jerusalem, and Ramallah. It provides a detailed snapshot of Palestinian attitudes toward Israel, their national identity, and possible solutions to their economic and social challenges.
Some more interesting insights from research survey results...
Most Palestinians support West Bank groups but don’t back Hamas, researcher says
Despite the ongoing “dehumanization and lack of trust” between Palestinians and Israeli Jews, both groups are weighing the choice between regional war and peace, Dr. Khalil Shikaki said.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-815996
Noa Argamani, an Israeli woman who spent 245 days in Hamas captivity in Gaza after being kidnapped last October 7, meets with representatives of Group of Seven nations in Tokyo on August 21, 2024. (Photo: Richard Brooks/AFP via Getty Images)
Slamming Israeli Media Lies, Freed Hostage Says IDF Strike—Not Hamas—Wounded Her
"I cannot ignore what happened here over the past 24 hours, taking my words out of context," said Noa Argamani. "As a victim of October 7, I refuse to be victimized once again by the media."
Brett Wilkins Aug 23, 2024 https://www.commondreams.org/news/noa-argamani-abuse
An Israeli woman kidnapped by Hamas militants on October 7 and held hostage for 245 days before being rescued lashed out on Friday at Israeli media outlets that twisted her words to make it seem as if she was wounded by her captors when in reality she was injured in an attack by the military in which she once served.
Responding to reports in outlets including The Jerusalem Post—which on Thursday ran the headline "Hamas Beat Me All Over"—Noa Argamani said on Instagram that "I can't ignore what happened in the media in the last 24 hours."
"Things were taken out of context," the 26-year-old navy veteran from Be'er Sheva said of her earlier comments to Group of Seven diplomats in Tokyo. "I was not beaten... I was in a building that was bombed by the Air Force."
"I emphasize that I was not beaten, but injured all over my body by the collapse of a building on me," Argamani added. "As a victim of October 7, I refuse to be victimized once again by the media."
Prominent Israelis including President Isaac Herzog and pro-Israel voices around the world including writer Aviva Klompas and the Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council amplified the false claim that Argamani was "beaten" by her captors.
Argamani was partying with her boyfriend Avinatan Or at the Nova rave near the Gaza border when the festival was attacked by Hamas-led militants in the early morning hours of October 7. In now-famous video footage, she is seen begging, "Don't kill me!" as her captors whisk her away toward Gaza on a motorcycle. Or was also kidnapped and is believed to still be in Hamas custody.
"Every night, I was falling asleep and thinking, this may be the last night of my life," Argamani said Thursday of her time in captivity.
Argamani was one of four Hamas captives rescued during a June raid on the Nuseirat refugee camp in Gaza, an operation in which Israeli forces killed at least 236 Palestinians, most of them women and children. Three other Israeli hostages taken from the Nova rave were also rescued in the raid.
"It's a miracle because I survived October 7, and I survived this bombing, and I also survived the rescue," Argamani said in Tokyo on Thursday.
Argamani's rescue fulfilled a dying wish from her mother, who had terminal cancer, to be reunited with her daughter before she passed. Argamani was also freed on the birthday of her father, Yakov Argamani, who, from the start of the hostage ordeal, urged Israeli leaders to eschew revenge after the October 7 attack.
There are believed to be around 109 Israelis and others still held captive by Hamas in Gaza. Argamani implored the government to make freeing them its top priority.
"Avinatan, my boyfriend, is still there, and we need to bring them back before it's going to be too late," she said Thursday. "We don't want to lose more people than we already lost."
More than 1,100 Israelis and others including Thai farmworkers were killed on October 7, at least some of them in so-called "friendly fire" attacks by Israeli forces. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) employed a protocol known as the "Hannibal Directive" authorizing lethal force against Israeli soldiers in order to prevent them from being taken prisoner by enemy forces. More than 240 Israelis and others were abducted by Hamas and other militants.
Freed hostages have recounted being fired upon by Israeli aircraft as they were being taken by Hamas militants to Gaza. One former captive said in December that "every day in captivity was extremely challenging. We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us, and then they would say Hamas killed you."
Numerous Israeli hostages have been killed by their would-be rescuers, including a trio of men who managed to escape from their captors and were waving white flags and shouting for help in Hebrew when they were shot dead by IDF soldiers in Gaza in December, and five Israelis who likely suffocated to death due to a fire sparked by an Israeli assault six months ago on the tunnel where the hostages were being held.
In contrast to former Palestinian prisoners held by Israel—who, along with Israeli whistleblowers, have reported systemic torture, rape, starvation, and even murder committed by their captors—numerous Israelis kidnapped by Hamas have reported being relatively well treated. Other former hostages said they were physically, sexually, and psychologically abused.
Taking civilian hostages is a war crime in itself.
Israel's 322-day retaliation for October 7 has left at least 144,000 Palestinians dead, wounded, or missing. Nearly all of Gaza's 2.3 million people have been forcibly displaced by Israel's bombardment and invasion, which has flattened much of the coastal enclave. A crippling siege has pushed hundreds of thousands of Gazans over the brink of starvation, with at least dozens of children dying of malnutrition, dehydration, and lack of medical care. Preventable diseases including measles, hepatitis, and polio threaten public health not only in Gaza but also in Israel and other neighboring nations.
Israel is currently on trial for genocide at the International Court of Justice.
Just a reminder.... Hamas' leaders once again state they do not support two states; the only solution is to kill all the Jews.
Is any wondering why Hamas continually holds up any internationally brokered cease-fire agreement? There should not be.
Hamas official boasts Oct. 7 derailed normalization processes, says never to two states
Hamas political bureau official Ghazi Hamad claimed that international boycotts proved October 7 was effective at halting normalization and pushing recognition of Palestinian statehood.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-816108
Is any wondering why Hamas continually holds up any internationally brokered cease-fire agreement? There should not be.
Hamas official boasts Oct. 7 derailed normalization processes, says never to two states
Hamas political bureau official Ghazi Hamad claimed that international boycotts proved October 7 was effective at halting normalization and pushing recognition of Palestinian statehood.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-816108
So why won't other Arab nations take in Palestinians? Well, because Palestinians sow violent chaos wherever they go. Other nations including Jordan and Kuwait have expelled Palestinians.
America: "When we supply weapons and ammo to Israel, it emboldens them as an attack dog, this is how you achieve peace, watch and learn sheeple".
Smoke and fire are seen on the Lebanese side of the border with Israel, after Israel said it carried out strikes on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon on August 25.
Aziz Taher/Reuters
Israel’s preemptive strike: Israel said early Sunday that it carried out preemptive strikes against Hezbollah after it identified the militant group was “preparing to fire missiles and rockets toward Israeli territory.” More than 100 Israeli fighter jets hit Hezbollah rocket launcher barrels across Lebanon.
At least 71 people killed by Israeli military in Gaza over the last 24 hours, health ministry says
From CNN's Tim Lister
The Ministry of Health in Gaza says at least 71 people have been killed as a result of Israeli military operations in the enclave over the past 24 hours.
Another 112 people have been wounded, the ministry said Sunday.
The ministry does not distinguish between civilian casualties and those sustained by Hamas, but it previously asserted that about 70% of casualties in the war have been women and children.
The ministry said the cumulative toll from Israeli military operations in Gaza since October 7 is now at least 40,405 killed and 93,468 injured.
Smoke and fire are seen on the Lebanese side of the border with Israel, after Israel said it carried out strikes on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon on August 25.
Aziz Taher/Reuters
Israel’s preemptive strike: Israel said early Sunday that it carried out preemptive strikes against Hezbollah after it identified the militant group was “preparing to fire missiles and rockets toward Israeli territory.” More than 100 Israeli fighter jets hit Hezbollah rocket launcher barrels across Lebanon.
At least 71 people killed by Israeli military in Gaza over the last 24 hours, health ministry says
From CNN's Tim Lister
The Ministry of Health in Gaza says at least 71 people have been killed as a result of Israeli military operations in the enclave over the past 24 hours.
Another 112 people have been wounded, the ministry said Sunday.
The ministry does not distinguish between civilian casualties and those sustained by Hamas, but it previously asserted that about 70% of casualties in the war have been women and children.
The ministry said the cumulative toll from Israeli military operations in Gaza since October 7 is now at least 40,405 killed and 93,468 injured.
As expected Hamas wants nothing to do with a ceasefire and peace. This comes on top of Hamas leader, Ghazi Hamad, stating that Hamas does not want a two state solution and will kill every Jew.
'"Whoever harms us -- we will harm them," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said.'
Hamas won't take part in cease-fire talks Sunday: Source
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...-hostages-war/?id=112935700&entryId=113126589
Hamas will not take part in the cease-fire talks scheduled for Sunday, an Egyptian official told ABC News.
U.S., Israeli and Qatari delegations will take part, the source said.
A Hamas delegation traveled to Cairo on Saturday to hear the details of the latest proposal from the mediators, but they will not participate in the talks themselves, Sunday, according to the source.