Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds

[wjk]

Maybe Holmes will eventually state why he chose that theater.

I don't think the gun free zones would be such an issue if it weren't for the sensationalism that the shooters know they'll get and the higher the body count, the higher the chance of a big story. That makes the case that seeking gun restricted zones is not idiotic, at least in some cases...in my opinion.

Perhaps the media should shoulder some of the blame. Giving lunatics their 5 minutes of fame is idiotic, if you ask me (as is producing maps of gun owners, including LE and unprotected individuals and families.)

 

[zdreg]

Quote from piezoe:

This might surprise you, Lucrum, but your post above hit home with me. That's why I send a little money off to BORDC each month. I am not one of the anarchists here. In fact I'm an advocate for good government. When government steps out of line, I don't want to destroy it, I want to make it better. We need good government, one with fewer, better laws. We have a lot of work to do to get there!

good government is an oxymoron.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from piezoe:

To be fair, you would have to agree, wouldn't you?, that there is not a single post here, from Kabong or anyone else, that suggests you should not, or "can't", own a gun. It seems most of the discussion has been centered around how to keep guns out of the wrong hands without infringing on our basic right to own them -- the Court in D.C. v. Heller has already put us on notice that the type of gun can be restricted without infringing on our right to own one. And it does seem there is plenty of support for restrictions among the public.

What are you talking about? There are numerous posts from various individuals on this forum saying that certain rifles and guns should be illegal and a ban put in place. Have you missed all of them?

Quote from piezoe:


Those who want no restrictions whatsoever --not saying that's you-- or want to advocate for every adult being able to carry a gun anywhere, no registration, no background checks, are free to do so. But I assure you that the national mode right now is not going to be accommodative of such positions. Nor will the idea that the probability of being a victim of one of these mass shootings is so small that it is not worth giving up any of our 2nd Amendment freedoms just to make a decrease in an already very slight probability. I must admit this latter argument held some appeal for me personally, until I considered it in greater depth. (See the data Tom Davis posted.)

It seems the national mood is closer to what Cuomo is backing in New York than it is to what Kroeker is backing in Wyoming. The NRA hardliners, unwilling to give an inch, have so intermingled the absurd with what otherwise might have been reasonable, that few in a public forum will take them seriously. They will be pushed off into their own corner as lunatics. Their objective participation would be welcome, their petulant obstruction will not be.

The NRA doesn't give an inch because they know it won't stop there. They know that once they surrender a particular issue, it puts ALL issues on the table, no matter how severe.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

What are you talking about? There are numerous posts from various individuals on this forum saying that certain rifles and guns should be illegal and a ban put in place. Have you missed all of them?

The former Brass wants a complete ban
the publix guy wants a complete ban
future turrets wants only a 5 round capacity with no semi auto allowed
Red Duke wants a 10 round limit and at one time he wanted a ban on semi auto long guns though I believe he has since changed his mind.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

"... The NRA doesn't give an inch because they know it won't stop there. They know that once they surrender a particular issue, it puts ALL issues on the table, no matter how severe.

Kudos to NRA!

They understand the "camel's nose under the tent".... just like Odumbocare.

 

[pspr]

Quote from zdreg:

good government is an oxymoron.

To liberals, a good government is one that sends you a check every month with money that it stole from someone else.

 

[L-Kabong]

Quote from Lucrum:

The former Brass wants a complete ban
the publix guy wants a complete ban
future turrets wants only a 5 round capacity with no semi auto allowed
Red Duke wants a 10 round limit and at one time he wanted a ban on semi auto long guns though I believe he has since changed his mind.

Maybe it's time for pspr, Lucrum, Tsingtao, bud"blueblood"campbell, Scataphagos,Achilles et al to chime in and say what personal possession of arms should be allowed, from the range of a bb gun to a 120mm howitzer.

 

[nutmeg]

120mm howitzer..

Gees. There a law against firing this thing in the burbs, there a lawif the guy shoots somebody..there's a law if he destroys property with it. There's a noise law....

So what's the problem if somebody owns one. There seems to be many laws governing it's use.

 

[budcampbell]

Quote from L-Kabong:

Maybe it's time for pspr, Lucrum, Tsingtao, bud"blueblood"campbell, Scataphagos,Achilles et al to chime in and say what personal possession of arms should be allowed, from the range of a bb gun to a 120mm howitzer.

Quite a list of liberty adherents. Common sense says leave things just as they are. Only people wanting change are Obama/social engineer types.

 

[pspr]

Quote from nutmeg:

120mm howitzer..

Gees. There a law against firing this thing in the burbs, there a lawif the guy shoots somebody..there's a law if he destroys property with it. There's a noise law....

So what's the problem if somebody owns one. There seems to be many laws governing it's use.

A loaded cannon was just found in central park. It wasn't bothering anyone until it was discovered loaded.