Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds

[Scataphagos]

Quote from budcampbell:

German officers tried to blow him up, but were unsuccessful. The great Erwin Rommel commited suicide, if you recall.

Apparently there were 50+ assassination attempts on Hitler. Hard to imagine he could have been so lucky as to avoid all.

 

[budcampbell]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Apparently there were 50+ assassination attempts on Hitler. Hard to imagine he could have been so lucky as to avoid all.

German intelligence and Gestapo was first rate, not to mention "worship" of the Fueher. Furthermore it took an assault on two fronts to do what insiders could not achieve.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

No one is seriously suggesting a militia army would fight pitched battles against federal forces.

We have seen time and time again however that occupiers face a difficult task in pacifying determined resistance from a well-armed population. That is one reason patioritc citizens should be buying as many assault weapons and ammo as possible now. If you don't want to use it, you can at least give them to someone who will, in case it becomes necessary.

Plus, the more weapons out there, the more difficult it will be to confiscate them. We have to draw a bright line in the sand that gun confiscation wil not be accepted and will be met with force.

I don't have a problem with the citizens arming themselves for self defense against criminals, or a potential government tyrant, but it would be much more messy than people think, should it come to that. I'm just trying to point out that a couple AR's ain't the be all and end all of self defense. Does a well armed population get the g-mans attention? Yes, and that is a good thing.
I'm not so sure a tyrannical government would have much luck getting the military to fire upon citizens in the street. Cops on the other hand would have no problem doing it, which is why I am much more alarmed with the militarization of our local police forces than any platoon of Marines marching down the street.

 

[budcampbell]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I don't have a problem with the citizens arming themselves for self defense against criminals, or a potential government tyrant, but it would be much more messy than people think, should it come to that. I'm just trying to point out that a couple AR's ain't the be all and end all of self defense. Does a well armed population get the g-mans attention? Yes, and that is a good thing.
I'm not so sure a tyrannical government would have much luck getting the military to fire upon citizens in the street. Cops on the other hand would have no problem doing it, which is why I am much more alarmed with the militarization of our local police forces than any platoon of Marines marching down the street.

Good point.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I don't have a problem with the citizens arming themselves for self defense against criminals, or a potential government tyrant, but it would be much more messy than people think, should it come to that. I'm just trying to point out that a couple AR's ain't the be all and end all of self defense. Does a well armed population get the g-mans attention? Yes, and that is a good thing.
I'm not so sure a tyrannical government would have much luck getting the military to fire upon citizens in the street. Cops on the other hand would have no problem doing it, which is why I am much more alarmed with the militarization of our local police forces than any platoon of Marines marching down the street.

Yes, I agree.

Every government agency, from the police to the local sewer department seem to have their own SWAT teams, all charged up and rarin' to go. Very frightening, but I guess that's the idea.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Scataphagos:

I've been hoping when THAT "push comes to shove" our military would say, "this is wrong... using armed force against our own citizens just because some power-hungry megalomaniac said to do it".... and refuse to comply.

(What would Hitler and Himler have done had their military personnel refused to comply with and even fought against their leaders.. because it was WRONG... with the "final solution"?)

That's why he had the SS. Obama indicated he wanted something like the SS in his 2008 speeches but I think he can't find a path to make that happen - yet.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from pspr:

That's why he had the SS. Obama indicated he wanted something like the SS in his 2008 speeches but I think he can't find a path to make that happen - yet.

No matter what you think of their politics the SS (combat divisions )were badasses and they took an oath to hitler himself.

IMHO they were the best trained large units ever.

 

[L-Kabong]

Quote from budcampbell:

German officers tried to blow him up, but were unsuccessful. The great Erwin Rommel commited suicide, if you recall.

His alternative was trial, execution, and imprisonment of his family.

 

[L-Kabong]

Quote from Scataphagos:

I'd be comfortable with a law MANDATING every citizen to be armed with an "AK, AR, or equivalent... + as many hand guns, shotguns, 40mm grenade launchers as needed to make them feel they have a chance against oppressive government, as necessary".

As a deterrent, the cumulative armament of the populace needs to be adequate to be considered as "formidable" by any oppressive government... and that includes OUR OWN!!

If you are so distrustful of our government, how do you expect them to pass a law mandating the populace be armed against them?

 

[L-Kabong]

Quote from pspr:

That's why he had the SS. Obama indicated he wanted something like the SS in his 2008 speeches but I think he can't find a path to make that happen - yet.

??

You dropped way way too much acid.