would an independent court convict georg walker bush

[jorgeamado88]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
Oh gosh George, Typo on my part! That should've been should NOT have gotten us in the war! Sorry! Thanks too.

OK, then it makes some sense. I think going into Iraq with a different strategy and for different reasons could have happened, and it could also have gotten a wider coalition.

If the reasoning would have been: Saddam is a dictator, murdering his own people, he should be brought to justice blah blah blah then I think Europe would have backed it. Instead the Bush administration came up with the WMD theory, the fake Al-Qaida link and the fact that Iraq was a threat to US security (how laughable), and everyone in Europe immediately understood this was heading on the fasttrack to disaster.

 

[man]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Typical euro-moral superiority. Sit back, do nothing and let the US protect you, then carp constantly.

I'd be more impressed if you were as concerned about the human rights abuses of Castro, the Chinese government, various african despots, the Iranian regime and the islamist terrorists. Since they all oppose the US, you are not interested in their abuses.

That attitude is exactly why the vast majority of Americans resent europeans and really couldn't care less what you think. You're quivering with rage because some al qaeda terrorists were slapped around and had dogs bark at them, but innocent hostages getting their heads cut off on the internet or people getting blown up daily by car bombs doesn't seem to get your attention.

you are simply wrong. you won't get away with the
"we brave americans are saving the world"-phrase.
you won't get away with pointing at other criminals
in order to hide your own record.
you won't get away with this cowboybootlike
mentality "collateral damage happens, no big deal".

you are the dominant military super power and
you got many things at home plain wrong. it is
about time that america stands straight for what
it does. ... and becomes again what it was.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from jorgeamado88:

AAA, it's people like you who's the reason why most eureopeans resent americans. You're just plain and simply wrong if you think your list of "reasons" goes unnoticed in Europe. You seem to think that US human rights abuse should get a special treatment and be more acceptable, but in Europe - the cradle of democracy - you just can't expect that.

Your final sentence just demonstrates how uninformed and stupid you are. It has no basis in reality, it's in your head and you should stop listening to right-wing talk radio.

We don't answer to europe. I know that infuriates you and your fellow socialists, but get used to it.


Now go put on your burkka before some muslim beats you.

 

[man]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

We don't answer to europe.

you could not have summed it up any better. that
is exactly the point. you have entered a sphere in
which the only thing you need to reference to is
your own current desire. international law? geneva?
no time for these things right now, because you
people have a mission, right?
you got away with this in recent years. but this
will end. at the height of power it feels like you have
it all in your own hand. you are the judge and the
law. but this will change. bill clinton got impeached
for putting his dick into monica lewinsky and you
reelect this poor guy who should rather stay at his ranch
playing cards and drinking beer with the rest of half
retarded american dreamers?

and you dare to talk and swear about a continent that
suffered more conflict on his home soil than all
your celluloid war phantasies can host? you dare to
talk about a europe that struggles in pain to settle
century old concflicts in a very, very civilised
manner? (we call it european community, i guess
the term is new to you) you dare to claim that
your reasons are honest, serious and sustainable?
you dare to tell that corporate interest is not the
top priority of you current administration, for which
it is willing to suffer e v e r y t h i n g ? heard of
kyoto? (guess again: you didn't, right?)

y o u d a r e ?

 

[man]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

... fellow socialists ...

you might have missed that europe is not all
socialist and that in fact one of the european
socialists you refer to is actually ... y o u r fellow.

 

[man]

my heart. oh. glad you are at least intelligent enough
to ignore me ... . i need to rest ...
(sighs and exit)

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from man:

you could not have summed it up any better. that
is exactly the point. you have entered a sphere in
which the only thing you need to reference to is
your own current desire. international law? geneva?
no time for these things right now, because you
people have a mission, right?
you got away with this in recent years. but this
will end. at the height of power it feels like you have
it all in your own hand. you are the judge and the
law. but this will change. bill clinton got impeached
for putting his dick into monica lewinsky and you
reelect this poor guy who should rather stay at his ranch
playing cards and drinking beer with the rest of half
retarded american dreamers?

and you dare to talk and swear about a continent that
suffered more conflict on his home soil than all
your celluloid war phantasies can host? you dare to
talk about a europe that struggles in pain to settle
century old concflicts in a very, very civilised
manner? (we call it european community, i guess
the term is new to you) you dare to claim that
your reasons are honest, serious and sustainable?
you dare to tell that corporate interest is not the
top priority of you current administration, for which
it is willing to suffer e v e r y t h i n g ? heard of
kyoto? (guess again: you didn't, right?)

y o u d a r e ?

What part of "we don't answer to europe" don't you understand? You're nothing but a bunch of wimps, tiny fists balled up in impotent fury. Al qaeda dosen't respect you, your own muslim hordes don't respect you, and we certainly don't respect you. We can see that your obsessive focus on such things as the Interantional Criminal Court is a last gasp effort at exerting influence over the US. Frankly, we're not interested in your opinions or advice.

Kyoto? What a joke. Who would have been forced to bear the brunt of it? Good ole US of A, while China , India and the "european community" carried on as usual.

I really hope you can settle your historic problems in a civilized manner. We're tired of bailing your butt out, then listening to your whining.

Before you lecture us poor dumb yokels any more, you should read up on American politics. Clinton was impeached for lying to a federal court in a lawsuit in which he was the defendant. That is called obstruction of justice, and he, his wife and half his administration should have gone to jail. There were numerous other grounds for impeachment covering corruption, abuse of power, misuse of confidential FBI records, etc.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Your first challenge would be to find an "Independent Court". One that has zero political bias. In times like these I'd be surprised if such a court even existed.
Assuming you could find one, the answer would be no as there is no conclusive evidence that President Bush ordered the committing of an actual war crime. There would be endless arguement of what an actual war crime is.
Your attempt to equate Bush with actual war criminals of the past is a fails the sniff test of political bias that serves no purpose other than to smear. And, I happen to think the President is a total fuck up in regards to his administering of the war effort. I can't imagine what his supporters think of you fictional court, but I can guess.....moonbat!

 

[man]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

... You're nothing but a bunch of wimps, tiny fists balled up in impotent fury. Al qaeda dosen't respect you, your own muslim hordes don't respect you, and we certainly don't respect you.

i think i can prolongue my tiny impotent existence
a little longer even suffering from the disrespect
of this exclusive circle consisting of al qaeda, muslim
"hordes" and ... yourself. though, admittedly,
seeing you among them ... doesn't surprise, but
hurts ... no, actually suprises too.

We can see that your obsessive focus on such things as the Interantional Criminal Court is a last gasp effort at exerting influence over the US. Frankly, we're not interested in your opinions or advice.[/QUOTE]
i am afraid you are doing yourself too much of honor
if you seriously think the court was designed for
... you. see, these tiny fists of ours believe in
power AND justice. even against those who are
IN power.

Kyoto? What a joke. Who would have been forced to bear the brunt of it? Good ole US of A, while China , India and the "european community" carried on as usual. [/QUOTE]
hear, hear. good ole US of A, we stop killing the
planet as soon as everybody else has! yes! not
with us, chinese indian mushrooms (tiny?)!

I really hope you can settle your historic problems in a civilized manner. We're tired of bailing your butt out, then listening to your whining. [/QUOTE]
thank you so much for these kind words in between.
(btw how about your own butt in recent decades?)

Before you lecture us poor dumb yokels any more, you should read up on American politics. Clinton was impeached for lying to a federal court in a lawsuit in which he was the defendant. That is called obstruction of justice, and he, his wife and half his administration should have gone to jail. There were numerous other grounds for impeachment covering corruption, abuse of power, misuse of confidential FBI records, etc. [/QUOTE]
dinosaurs and human beings did not live in the
same age and the earth is slightly older than 6000
years. just in case you believed that stuff the reps
and their (good ole?) christians proclaim too.

 

[man]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Your first challenge would be to find an "Independent Court". One that has zero political bias. In times like these I'd be surprised if such a court even existed.

right. but then again, is it better not to create
such a court, or not even try?

Assuming you could find one, the answer would be no as there is no conclusive evidence that President Bush ordered the committing of an actual war crime. There would be endless arguement of what an actual war crime is.[/QUOTE]
we need that kind of argument. on war crime and
... on torture.

Your attempt to equate Bush with actual war criminals of the past is a fails the sniff test of political bias that serves no purpose other than to smear.[/QUOTE]
touche. though i was not really aware of it until
the belt showed up ...

And, I happen to think the President is a total fuck up in regards to his administering of the war effort. I can't imagine what his supporters think of you fictional court, but I can guess.....moonbat! [/QUOTE]
see, for the land of justice and democracy both
things are a shame: the supreme court decision
to end the florida count and the decision not to
ratify the international court. political gaming back
and forth. for a nation with your record: a shame.