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No offense but your focus on how much you could have made and the fact that you are not focused on risk tells me you are still a novice in this profession.
I told you already: two point stop.
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Ignore the percentages ?
The main theme of trading is to use the percentages to your advantage so why should we ignore them ?
A rule which causes you to miss these trades shows a lack of understanding of the conditions which precede such price action and the implications for future price and liquidity.
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And now you are telling me after the fact that you can catch 20 points on gap days trading with the gap in a trading vehicle that exhibits excessive mean reversion and that we should ignore the high percentages of gap fills and chase price.
No, I never said to "chase price". "Excessive mean reversion". That is language from a trader who does not understand the intent of the market. Mean reversion...please. Some days the ES will trade in an 8 point range, and other days it will finish 20 points higher than the open. Don't tell me there isn't a difference, and the causes of these differences cannot be known in advance.
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How about you prove me wrong and post realtime on any gap day you feel fit.
Already done, and I can do it at will. The last time I was generous here and called one in advance was May 9. It continued to some rather predictable levels over the following two days. Further, it is not appropriate to ask me to provide live calls in advance of the event. I have nothing to prove here - I know what is what, and it is for the reader to chose who is worth listening to.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2833684&highlight=gap+up#post2833684
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I want to see you take 20 points with a 2 point stop in the direction of the gap posted in real time or else you are just blowing smoke up everyone's ass after the fact.
I did this on 1 September, Long 1062 at the open with a 2 point stop, closed 1082. How and why is not your business. Lets assume I'm talking BS. Does this mean it cannot be done? Or the alternative - I can do this, and you've just alienated a trader with the knowledge and skill to predict such outcomes in advance. Either way, you demonstrate by your conduct that you are unsuitable for further progression in this topic.
Again, I stand by my initial assessment that you are well meaning. No disrespect intended, but there are various levels in trading. Do not dismiss others who have done the work required to reach a higher level of understanding. Forums are full of BS, and it is the mission of a trader to distinguish between value and nonsense. However, in this case you've immediately jumped to the conclusion that the level of knowledge I allude to is unobtainable, and therefore I must be full of it. You must be open to possiblities and acknowledge that there are those who know more than you. I am still learning and am always pleased to discover something new. I do not disparage those who have something different to offer - doing so is unwise and will affect your bottom line as you will impose limitations on your own thoughts and therefore your potential.
There are some traders trained by firms who are consistently profitable in as little as one year, in their own niche. This does not mean that they have the ability to trade any instrument, in any timeframe, and when conditions permit in almost any size with an understanding of what has caused the current condition and therefore what is likely to happen next.
My intent in posting here is interaction with others on a topic which interests me, and when I am able to progress others by sharing some insights. It is discouraging to be retorted to with rudeness and abuse when I am trying to share something of value to benefit others.