With a 40k account.

cool! would you mind giving a tutorial on how this works?

Quote from Buy1Sell2:

I have sold call premium( generally 2 calls to the underlying position--note my name) to subsidize the account, which actually decreases the exposure lower than 1 to 1. Margin is not necessary to successful trading. :)
 
problem is that you won't really know if you have a system that works until you trade it.:)

Quote from traderdragon:

DO NOT TRADE until you have a proven system that works. You should know exactly how much to expect to earn a day based on your systems' stats.
 
I love it! thanks a lot !

Quote from mschey:

I started out trading with 25k, I had enough savings to cover 1 year of expenses living with a roommate, a real passion for the business, a goal of making 40k a year, and determination to make it work.

I came in and started trading the typical garbage everyone talks about. Look for set ups with 2:1 risk reward, buy stock at the 50ma, risk a buck, looking to make $2. I could make some money, but couldn't make a living, so I looked for alternatives.

Then I started trading M&A, was involved in GEHON when it blew up, and lost half of my acct. I was getting desperate, and need to find a way to make my living trading, so I looked for a teacher, somone I could learn the nuances of professional trading. I needed to find an edge, and with a little education, and alot of hardwork, I was able to make some money. Within two months, I made my money back. Another four, I accomplished my first double. Two months after that, I did my second double, then I doubled again in a month. I have had a few set backs along the way, every now and then you need to reinvent yourself as a trader, figure out how to make money in an ever changing market. But it can be done, anyone can do it, you just have to be commited, work hard, and enjoy the process. The constant R&D it takes to remain on top.

I think anyone who has the drive and willingness to do the work, who can be totally honest about what is happening, and learn from their mistakes, can make it in the markets. You just have to keep changing your approach until you find a model that works.
 
hows life?

Quote from JimmyJam:

This is a complete vanity thread and the OP is here to waste people's time.

He never had $40K, to work with. More like $2K with no assets, or even more importantly, exeprience, asking how much money he can make with $40K per day.

... looking at entering the game in a Prop Shop, and all of 20 years old.

You can probably do as well as this guy:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43631&perpage=6&pagenumber=1

You do know that you'll be held responsible for your losses, right?

No regards,

JJ
 
hi tyler ...

perhaps this has been said before here in thread I know it has been stated elsewhere on ET

do not worry about how much you can make

do not try to make as much as the "BIG GUNS"

you read about in magazines or you meet

in the biz somehow or even on ET

worry about your methods your risk your discipline
your self control your edge your best markets
or stocks your type of trades etc

how old are you anyway ?
what is your background ?
can you afford to lose 20K ?

good luck
 
Quote from sosa1974:

You are a Prop firm's dream come true. That is all I will say. Good luck to you.

sweet do you think they will give me like 100:1 leverage?
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

In addition , I have sold call premium( generally 2 calls to the underlying position--note my name) to subsidize the account, which actually decreases the exposure lower than 1 to 1. Margin is not necessary to successful trading. :)
B1S2: I'm utterly confused by this. I've read many of your posts without a doubt to your sanity until now. :-)

1) You're selling straddles if you're buying the underlying and selling two calls. Not that straddle selling is a bad play, particularly in bonds or possibly even ES these days, but it's not really a way to decrease your exposure. You're getting pretty short gamma which increases your exposure. (i.e you have both upside and downside exposure)

2) How are you selling straddles without using margin? I know exactly how much margin it takes for me to sell a straddle on practically any future or equity. Neither is "free". Unless you mean you're not exceeding your cash in margin use.

I must be misunderstanding your strategy...

As to tyler: Stick your $2k into a bond or mutual fund. Paper trade until you're consistently successful, then risk *VERY* tiny amounts of it. Like others have said, it's not controlling much you'll make per day, but how much you'll lose.

Also, $400 is crazy for a $2k account. 5 bad days (everyone has a bad week), and you're out. If you're leveraged, you'll be getting a margin call and going even deeper into debt. Just do some simple math--you're expecting to make 20% per *day*. If you could do that, your account balance will be over $1M in 36 trading days. Does that sound reasonable?
 
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