Watching Biden speak while campaigning is so funny. He's like a natural comedian with himself as the butt of the jokes. 
Will Trump win re-election
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How should we characterize Biden’s and the Democrat party’s legacy since Dr. Martin Luther King, jr’s days given the still serious lack of quality education, lack of economic opportunities, and lack of safety in long term Democrat controlled inner cities? It has been over fifty years now.
Not all Democrats have suffered under Biden’s tenure, though. Biden and his son have done ok, as well as a contractor or two. Or three... Haven’t they?
Trump has done more for working class people than any Democrat in the last fifty years. Trump has created more economic opportunities for minorities than Democrats in the last fifty years as well.
Trump is good for America; Biden is not.
You're forgetting they drive up polls in one direction or the other to discourage voters, taper the lead to about 3x reality to spur people into voting, and then dial it back to actual numbers the day before the election. In recent history this has been almost exclusively to the benefit of Democrats (by virtue of their near unilateral control of the tech monopolies) but it's bipartisan in it's execution.
Polls are a tool of the fourth branch of the government to manipulate voters. Believing them makes you a rube. I don't care who you actually want to win - it makes you a rube.
Every person saying Drumpf btfo lmao polls needs to seriously evaluate if they're a real free thinker or a "I visit reddit and we are free thinkers" type "free" thinker. If you look at polls and every left leaning organization has Biden +N and every right organization has Trump +N you have to wonder why they aren't forced to fully disclose in huge capital letters and bold font their sampling methodology.
The Democrats in particular only care about the minority vote until November 4th. Why people, in particular people who live in low income townships managed by Democrats, continue to vote that way eludes me to this day. Though I have feeling it has to do with race pandering and gerrymandering. The Democrats are the uncontested kings and queens of playing the race card for profit. Remember you ain't black unless you vote for Biden.
The election will come down to COVID response and the probability Joe will actually execute on anything he says he will. The house is currently salivating at a supermajority and the ability to undo decades worth of work (not only Trump's EOs) in order to bring about their desired monarchy.
No one seems to remember Trump getting black unemployment to 3% among several other pro-minority things he has done. They only seem to remember "they don't send their best" and whatever Lemon and Stelter guilt them into believing on their fake news network.
She lost by a huge margin and bitched and moaned for what seemed like MONTHS about the popular vote. How much did you drink on election night?
Here's your queen herself saying Biden shouldn't concede under any circumstance:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ould-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156
Sure seems like she's still pretty salty about getting completely blown the fuck out by citrus hitler. But hey don't let me stop you from making it sound like only magatards will refuse to concede. Whatever helps you take your meds before lunch time at the clinic.
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You suggested your statistics were more valid than the ET poll without providing details, leading me to speculate on what those details were. The “If” is a condition, not an accusation. If you are butt hurt, and choose to remain that way, that is your choice. Note, I did not say you were butt hurt.
So people you previously characterized as “People You know” in your earlier post now are characterized as your “Friends”. Thank you for that detail. This detail alerts us your statistics are less likely to be a representative sample of US voters at large.
Polled your 100 “Close friends”? Impressive having a 100 close friends. More impressive is 100% of them told you who they voted for. Impressive to the point of incredibility, hence my decision to call you out. You also indicated that 100% of them voted. There is only one way to know how they voted for sure. That is viewing their ballots and mailing them yourself.
So my conclusion is you are bullshitting us somewhere along the line, but probable cause for voting related fraud is not established.
You are an intelligent poster who provides much more support than most for your reasoning and opinions. I respect you for that. As for as these recent posts, not so much.
Below is a quote from your original post on this subject:
About 15% said they've voted for Trump and 85% stated they voted for Biden.
- Everyone of them have now voted.
Actually, you're presenting again but in a different way after I called you out for the prior IF statement. Its offensive...not butt hurt. The fact you needed to clarify that after being called out for such a statement...I've made my point.
With that said, I stated I trust my friends and I later suggested I believe my own personal poll of those friends is much more valid than ET forum poll which at the time of my statement had only 10 votes although the forum has thousands of members.
- No verification if those that voted are U.S. Citizens. Seriously, don't flatter yourself if you think an ET forum poll represents a poll for the U.S. elections.
- Which poll would you believe...your friends or unknown anonymous people at a forum whom you have no idea if they're a few people with multiple user names ?
In contrast, I stated my friends probably represented the American Citizens living abroad in which I encourage them to contact their state officials for an Absentee Ballot.
Further, I did mention or asking if anyone here at ET had an actual poll of American Citizens living abroad (ACA) about who they'll vote for...nobody responded to my request for any links to any sources. Yet, as stated with a direct link to an organization...I did contact someone but so far...nobody has replied.
By the way, at the time of this message post in comparison to the time of my message about ET poll...there are now 31 votes...up from 10 votes. Maybe you'll get lucky to reach +100 votes.
Yet, if you feel like ET forum poll represents U.S. vote opinions...I must strongly disagree and I'll stick with my friends as being more valid than an ET forum poll because I know my friends...they are not anonymous and the chances of them having multiple identities not likely in comparison to individuals at this forum known to have multiple aliases.
By the way, this is 2020...if you can't keep track of many of your friends (names, emails, phone numbers)...military unit, college, high school, reunions, associations, family members in the U.S. and so on...something is wrong with how you network or you're running from something.
Those I contacted...100% of them stated whom they voted for although I have no proof if they voted for the other person or if they even voted. Something else to keep in mind...they are not the only ones that voted from within their families.
P.S. Thanks for not projecting anymore with the IF statements onto me as if I did something (you use the word vote fraud, filling out forms) in which I did not state nor imply.
Yet, for disclosure...I don't give a shit what you believe about my friends and I don't care that you're uncomfortable with the fact that I trust my friends word about whom they voted versus now 31 anonymous pollsters here @ Elitetrader.com in which you nor I have any way to determine if they're American Citizens or whom has multiple aliases to cast multiple votes.
In addition, there's an option to "change your vote". Now imagine the chaos if the U.S. elections allowed voters to return and change their votes.
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Do you have any evidence that all of these polls are bullshitting to suppress the Trump vote? Doesn't seem to be working, because ever Trumper I meet doesn't believe the polls. You realize how much worse they are for Trump now versus 2016? Biden is over 50% in these swing states. Hillary never was. The hidden Trump vote is a mostly bullshit narrative. The truth is that there were lot of undecideds/Gary Johnson voters who broke late for Trump and not a lot of polling in the so-called blue wall. Biden's averages might be dragged down, because RCP is putting garbage polls from Trafalgar in their calculations.
Don't forget the FBI investigation news on Clinton emails was release the last week prior to the election along with the WikiLeaks stuff.
I don't think there's been any announced investigations of Joe Biden so far going into Tuesday November 3rd nor surprising WikiLeaks news to manipulate voters...
In addition, as of today, the early vote has already amount to 65.5% of 2016 total vote count.
That's a mind boggling figure in my opinion. Some states like Texas and Hawaii have already exceeded their 2016 total vote count. If Biden wins Texas...Trump must win Florida or vice versa for Trump not be put into the position that he needs to run the table on the rest of the swing states.
First of all, not pointing any fingers to any specific TV / news network even ones online like Twitter or Facebook...
Polls can easily be manipulated although not worth it considering any of those networks can then do their own polls to contradict someone's else poll.
Just as important, not worth debating about polls when the actual counting of the first states I believe begins Tuesday night.
Yet, I'm hoping the early vote decides the election to minimize the accusation of fraud by those trying to find a reason to make the election illegitimate. It will be funny to see whom is losing and then bet their hopes on the Absentee Ballots. More irony...if its then Trump suddenly becoming dependent upon the Absentee Ballots or mail-in ballots post marked before Tuesday that doesn't get counted until after Tuesday.
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The news cycle was bad for Clinton and the polling was much more infrequent. There was never a significant hidden Trump vote. I’m concerned about the lack of polling in MN and NV this time (Biden has to invest some resources there and can’t assume a hold even though it’s likely), but the polling is much better in PA, MI, and WI. It’s highly likely Trump performs better in NV than those other states this time around. It’s hard for me to see how Trump wins without cheating when he’s behind those 3 states by 5+ points and Biden is at 50%+ in pretty much every legitimate poll. Emerson has been skewing right this election cycle, but they have a lot more credibility than Trafalgar (which shouldn’t even be on any legitimate polling website in my opinion). Just look at what Nate Silver has to say about them: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...blasts-trafalgar-and-rasmussen-polls-as-crazy
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It is going to come down to ballot challenges. If every ballot is counted Biden wins. The Republicans have finally accomplished what they knew was coming and did nothing to prevent: They are now the minority party and can only win through discouraging turnout or successfully challenging and suppressing ballots.
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