Will Gay Marriage repudiation be next?

I think there is a fairly obvious solution. States should repeal their marriage laws and replace them with domestic partnership arrangements, which would be registered with the state and which would invoke legal obligations.

Traditional marriage would revert to a purely religious ceremony, with churches free to decide who gets to take part and what obligations and ramifications are created thereby. This would be popular with groups such as muslims, since they could apply sharia law at least in part, and perhaps Mormons, as they could revive their tradition of polygamy.
 
this had almost nothing to do with my point... why was it addressed to me? the constitution already limits the powers of the federal govt. we don't need to replace it...we need justices who follow it.

your idea seems to open the door to to even more powerful and dangerous and unrepresentative federal govt...why not simply appoint judges who are likely to follow the Constitutions rather than leftists who seem to have no respect for the part of the constitution which limits federal govt ?

You are aware that the Constitution already specifically gives the House the power to decide what cases the Supreme Court can hear, aren't you? However the cat's already out of the bag in this case. To follow the Constitution the House has to prevent the Court from hearing the case in the first place! Gingrich pointed this out in one of the debates, and people were shocked. I guess one could conclude the U.S. Constitution is a shocking document. If it weren't such a risky enterprise, especially with all of these lunatic christians lurking about in the bushes, we should burn the Constitution and start over with African Americans counted as a whole person, the President elected by popular vote, and only Homo sapiens having first amendment rights!
 
I think there is a fairly obvious solution. States should repeal their marriage laws and replace them with domestic partnership arrangements, which would be registered with the state and which would invoke legal obligations.

Welcome to the land of the eight year long, $600K legal fee divorce ? And how, pray tell, would a Joint Parenting Agreement look like in Sharia compliant or polygamy format ? Quite the opposite - I believe that many States, especially the Civil Circuit Courts, would be loath to change domestic affairs codes. Every State's marital and parenting civil codes have taken a long time to evolve into their current form for some very good reasons. Namely, dragging out litigation for a very long time and clogging up the Court dockets even further.
 
Welcome to the land of the eight year long, $600K legal fee divorce ? And how, pray tell, would a Joint Parenting Agreement look like in Sharia compliant or polygamy format ? Quite the opposite - I believe that many States, especially the Civil Circuit Courts, would be loath to change domestic affairs codes. Every State's marital and parenting civil codes have taken a long time to evolve into their current form for some very good reasons. Namely, dragging out litigation for a very long time and clogging up the Court dockets even further.


I'm not sure i get your point, other than that there are vested interests who would like to see divorce remain heavily lawyered.

Under my proposal, if you opted for a religious marriage, you could register it with the state and thereby make yourself and your spouse subject to its domestic relations laws. Or, you could agree with your spouse to subject yourselves instead to your church's rules on marriage, kind of like you can agree to submit contractual disputes to arbitration.

Muslims already are clamoring for this right, and many conservatives are deadset against it, calling it imposition of sharia law. But if muslims want to govern marriage under their own religious rules, why should we object, provided basic human rights are respected? Who can blame them? Under islam women occupy a role similar to farm animals, but in our courts they can kick the husband out and take the kids, just because they want to.

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, should favor my proposal, even though they likely would not. Applying religious standards to these religious marriages would make divorce far more difficult. No longer would liberal judges who share nothing in the way of common values with the religious have authority over them and their kids.
 
Are all states going to obey the same sex marriage laws?

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The left has their 'sanctuary cities' where they feel they can flout the laws on immigration. They feel they don't have to enforce laws they don't like.

Why can't cities or states do the same thing with laws they don't like? Like on ssm?
What's obama going to do? Send in the marines?
 
"...On this day in 1963, President John F. Kennedy issues presidential proclamation 3542, forcing Alabama Governor George Wallace to comply with federal court orders allowing two African-American students to register for the summer session at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. The proclamation ordered Wallace and all persons acting in concert with him to cease and desist from obstructing justice...."

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-faces-down-defiant-governor

I hope these morons test their will and see what happens.
 
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"...On this day in 1963, President John F. Kennedy issues presidential proclamation 3542, forcing Alabama Governor George Wallace to comply with federal court orders allowing two African-American students to register for the summer session at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. The proclamation ordered Wallace and all persons acting in concert with him to cease and desist from obstructing justice...."

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-faces-down-defiant-governor

I hope these morons test their will and see what happens.


Yeah, ok, we get it. When San Francisco sucks the dicks of illegal immigrants, that's one thing. But if a southern state isn't into dick sucking, send in the marines on those morons, right?

Sanctuary city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city
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Sanctuary city is a term given to a city in the United States or Canada that follows certain practices that protect Illegal immigration.
 
Well, marijuana cultivation and distribution is a federal offense as well, and multiple States have certainly chosen to go the other way on that one as well.
 
"...Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis famously praised the division of sovereign powers included within America’s constitutional structure for its capacity to encourage states to “serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.”1 This legislative freedom is constrained, however, by various constitutional restrictions including the Supremacy Clause, which provides that federal law “shall be the supreme Law of the Land.”2 Pursuant to this established principle of federal legal preeminence, any state law that conflicts with federal law is generally considered preempted and therefore void. Although simple in theory, the task of determining whether a state law is “in conflict” with federal law can be incredibly complex in practice. The ongoing national debate over marijuana provides a clear example of the confusion associated with the states’ ability to pursue policies that deviate from those advanced by the federal government. In addition to the 20 states and the District of Columbia that currently exempt qualified users of medicinal marijuana3 from penalties imposed under state law, Colorado and Washington in late 2012 became the first states to legalize,4 regulate, and tax small amounts of marijuana for personal (i.e., nonmedicinal) use by individuals over the age of 21.5 These broad legalization initiatives stand in stark contrast to federal law, which makes the cultivation, distribution, or possession of any amount of marijuana—for any purpose other than bona fide, federally approved scientific research—a criminal offense.6 Therefore, the possession, cultivation, or distribution of marijuana remains a federal crime within Colorado, Washington, and every other state. As a result, individuals who grow, possess, use, sell, transport, or distribute marijuana, even when done in a manner consistent with state law or pursuant to a state-issued license, are nonetheless in violation of the federal Controlled Substances Act (CSA) and remain subject to federal criminal prosecution or other consequences under federal law.7 Given the federal government’s continued ability to enforce its own prohibition, it cannot be said that the Washington and Colorado laws create a right to use ..."

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43034.pdf

Just because it is legalized by states, doesn't mean you can't be tried by the Federal Government. There is a risk involved, and it is most certainly non-zero. I think all drugs should be legalized simply because if you take the profit out of it, much of the societal harm is taken away from it. Then we have to deal with the damage done to the individuals themselves, but that is probably the lesser of the two evils.
 
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