Will California Ever Thrive Again?

More lies from the lying liars

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The majority of non payers in every state are Democrats.
 
The majority of non payers in every state are Democrats.

This is absolutely true, though I'm guessing that our resident Tireless Rebutter and (drag) Queen of Spam exGoPer is the one that caused you to respond with that comment. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

If you look at pure return on Tax dollars paid, states like California and NY actually look to be "givers" as a whole. This is simply because this is where the higher wage paying jobs are located, and higher salaries come with higher tax receipts. Duh. But remove NYC from NY, or remove a few, very small but very rich communities from California, and the rest of the state is a disaster. Alternatively:

"During the many decades in the 20th century when the South was solidly Democratic, its congressional representatives in both the House and the Senate, enjoying great seniority, came to hold leadership positions on powerful committees, which they used to send federal dollars back to their home states in the form of contracts, projects, installations." (link)
Many of these contracts, military bases and various other federally provided benefits are present today. Including things like military bases as a form of Federal subsidy is very disingenuous, but don't expect moonbats on the left to ever admit that. Because if you removed these things, it would show a very different story.

Additionally, a good deal of the benefits provided to states are things like SNAP (food stamps). SNAP usage by state:

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As you can see, states in the South and many other states considered "Red" because how they swung as a whole in the election are the primary beneficiaries of SNAP programs. However, we know from SNAP data (page 56/7) that the vast majority of SNAP users are non-white, who vote - you guessed it - democrat. This is the same for HUD and base welfare programs:

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Additionally, if you follow beyond these programs and look at overall poverty maps that detail by county the poverty level by each county, you can determine the demographic/racial makeup of these counties to even further extrapolate the fact that, yes, the majority of the "takers" of welfare are races other than white. I point this out not for race purposes alone (although the moonbats will certainly rush to label me a racist - paging Nine Ender) but to link how these races tend to vote, in order to back up the claim that the majority of the people in so-called "red states" that are "takers" are, in fact, democrats. This isn't to say that whites don't collect welfare. They obviously do. But if we consider that whites (who are most certainly not all republican) consist of a portion of the takers, and that portion has itself a portion that is democrat, combined with an overwhelmingly large portion of non-whites that are democrat, yields that most takers are democrats.

Of course, facts are never important to trolls.
 
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" But remove NYC from NY, or remove a few, very small but very rich communities from California, and the rest of the state is a disaster. "

LOL, remove everything that doesn't support my narrative then I have proof of my narrative

"the vast majority of SNAP users are non-white"

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More lies from the lying liars. These pathological liars are so easy to debunk.

" at overall poverty maps that detail by county the poverty level by each county,"

Oops

www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/01/05/poverty-map/

"Nationally, 23 percent of the 25-to-54-year-old population was not working in March, up from 18 percent in 2000. The areas where Trump is most popular appear to be at the forefront of that trend."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/upshot/the-geography-of-trumpism.html
 
" But remove NYC from NY, or remove a few, very small but very rich communities from California, and the rest of the state is a disaster. "

LOL, remove everything that doesn't support my narrative then I have proof of my narrative

"the vast majority of SNAP users are non-white"

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More lies from the lying liars. These pathological liars are so easy to debunk.

" at overall poverty maps that detail by county the poverty level by each county,"

Oops

www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/01/05/poverty-map/

"Nationally, 23 percent of the 25-to-54-year-old population was not working in March, up from 18 percent in 2000. The areas where Trump is most popular appear to be at the forefront of that trend."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/upshot/the-geography-of-trumpism.html

According to your graph 25.7% of the SNAP recipients are black. What percentage of the U.S. population is black? Hint: 13.2%
 
According to your graph 25.7% of the SNAP recipients are black. What percentage of the U.S. population is black? Hint: 13.2%

According to the person I am responding to, VAST majority are non-white. Hint: I proved him wrong, as usual.

Secondly, blacks have been historically impoverished which is why they are are more reliant on government help. In fact, the redder the state, the more they are impoverished.
 
According to the person I am responding to, VAST majority are non-white. Hint: I proved him wrong, as usual.

Secondly, blacks have been historically impoverished which is why they are are more reliant on government help. In fact, the redder the state, the more they are impoverished.

Actually BLUE states lead the nation in government benefits.

This article from USA Today "New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits" compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.

Go to my previous post to read...

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/remember-remember-the-eighth-of-november.307598/#post-4422887
 
Actually BLUE states lead the nation in government benefits.

Of course they do, they are the most populous

This article from USA Today "New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits" compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.

You are not being honest, New York spends the most on MEDICAID, for the rest they are in the middle in terms of spending

From the article

"The state's relative affluence allows it to care for its poor. New York ranks in the middle of the pack in providing benefits to its residents when spending is measured as a percentage of the state's income, the analysis found."

"Overall, government checks flow from affluent states, generally in the Northeast and West, to less affluent states, especially in the South."

That's from YOUR article
 
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