Will Bush get re-elected?

cdbern · Mar 8, 2004

Quote from ARogueTrader:

Why is this legal? It subverts the spirit of the constitution, all we hear is complaints about it, but the senators and the congressmen won't give up the perks and campaign contributions that flow through the lobby system.

That's an important fact ART. One that Americans on every political lane should be asking.

BloodTrader · Mar 8, 2004

Here, Axe, a stats page on household income from the Census Bureau...

http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-221.pdf

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Quote from axeman:

Ahaaaaaaaaaaa! One Democrat SCREWED up and listed numbers!
Excellent.

Now if you research his quote, the $90,000 figure refers
to PARENTAL income/Household income.

In other words.... Gray Davis thinks you are $$$RICH$$$ if both
of your parents make $45,000 a year in California!!

Are you fricken kidding me??? $45K in Cali is SQUAT.

Finally a Dem shows his true colors.

Dems define the MIDDLE CLASS as $$RICH RICH RICH$$ to
sell their bullshit class warfare crap

Well.... I guess im rich as hell then...whatever...

peace

axeman

cdbern · Mar 8, 2004

Quote from MackieMesser:

Not the issue cd.

Mackie, this is very much the issue. Its at the heart of the Democratic mentality. Or at least those of support Democratic platforms.

It never ceases to amaze me how a party that promotes taxation to the degree dems do can be so popular with the subjects being taxed.

BloodTrader · Mar 8, 2004

Quote from cdbern:

Mackie, this is very much the issue. Its at the heart of the Democratic mentality. Or at least those of support Democratic platforms.

It never ceases to amaze me how a party that promotes taxation to the degree dems do can be so popular with the subjects being taxed.

Bush's tax cuts were for the wealthy. That's the issue. The rich whine about taxes, but don't you dare mess with all the special rules that are designed just for them. Our tax code is a disgusting unintelligable mass of spaghetti, precisely because it has been tortured and twisted for the sake of special interests.

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BloodTrader · Mar 8, 2004

Why speak of Bush getting reelected...

I like this campaign button:

"Redefeat Bush in 2004"

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cdbern · Mar 8, 2004

Quote from MackieMesser:

Bush's tax cuts were for the wealthy. That's the issue. The rich whine about taxes, but don't you dare mess with all the special rules that are designed just for them. Our tax code is a disgusting unintelligable mass of spaghetti, precisely because it has been tortured and twisted for the sake of special interests.

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For the wealthy? I'm far from "wealthy". So what do you want Mackie, to give money back to those who didn't pay in the first place??

I agree, the tax code is a mess. You want to blame Republicans. Like they're the ones responsible? The working class were NEVER suppose to pay the amount they're called upon to pay now. NEVER. But Congress just can't get away from the pork.

And why is it again Democrats are sooooo opposed to giving money back to anyone?

axeman · Mar 8, 2004

Yeah thats right. Bush cut taxes for people making 40k year,
also know as "the wealthy" by Dems.

Whooopie.

peace

axeman

Quote from MackieMesser:

Bush's tax cuts were for the wealthy. That's the issue. The rich whine about taxes, but don't you dare mess with all the special rules that are designed just for them. Our tax code is a disgusting unintelligable mass of spaghetti, precisely because it has been tortured and twisted for the sake of special interests.

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sulong · Mar 8, 2004

Quote from MackieMesser:

It's not that simple. You can easily see what happens when government and the wealthy become too closely entwined. Your lose your democracy, or have a parody of democracy. Just look at so many of the capitalist third world countries. Do we really want to end up like them? With a wealthy ruling elite and everyone else can just eat shit and die?

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Actually I think it is that simple, but not easy.

As long as we have a world economy, we have no choice but to be like "Them"

The golden rule has always applied, in all times and places, forever!

I'm not saying I agree, just saying, thats the way it is, and always has been.

axeman · Mar 8, 2004

Hey MackieMesser,

Since you are so against the tax cuts bush **GAVE YOU**,
you wealthy bastard you

, I think you should voluntarily
give them back

peace

axeman

Doubter · Mar 8, 2004

I think we should allow the dems who yearn for higher taxes to not be discouraged from paying them. The difference is that they should voluntarily pay more and not force the ones who don't want to pay. Nothing I know of prevents the dems who want to pay more from doing so just don't include me in their schemes.