Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

[J_Smith]

SC, if you want to make any real progress, you have to be honest with yourself.

When you have your first losing trade, that is bigger than you had initially intended, post what way you really feel, and how you are acting.

No one will laugh at you for getting it wrong, in fact, if you do what I say you will be commended, as most are afraid to tell others they have just made a stupid mistake, and will therefore keep making them.

Back in 2007, when it happened me, I barely slept the night before I closed all open short put positions, and I will never forgot the feelings, with thoughts of losing 100k sterling the following morning.

When I made the phonecall, and gave back just over 17k sterling within 1 minute, it was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.

Facts are, I overtraded, panicked, and did not fully understand how to adjust losing option positions, which I now know how to do, but wish I had made it my business to find out back then

Anyone can make money trading, providing the understand and accept the facts. How much you make, will depend on how much you have, how good you are at reading charts, your risk approach, and your commitment to hard work for to gain the required experiences.

You (general) do not need anyone else, but you do need to act like an adult, and not like a child!

J_S

 

[J_Smith]

Today is going to be very interesting, as I have seen these patterns before.

Futures drifts and returns to previous days close just prior to US open, and with big reports due out at 10.00, we might see smaller than usual movements at the open.

It can, and will, of course do what it does, but I would not be any bit surprised to see an initial rally if news is good, followed by a big pullback.

I am still trying to decipher SPX & SPY OI, and still asking an expert to post some details, as from my looking last night, based on current OI ( which of course will change with volume traded), the SPX looks like heading south before friday, but this could all change after 10.00 today?

Let's see what actually happens, and try understand why, and see if it is all down to "news"!

I have bought some ES puts, just in case

J_S

 

[Vindago]

SC, JS, I had some big losers last year, more than one even if not as big as 17KGBP singularly, thing is it took me more time than it should to learn the lesson (still learning it by the way) as getting winner trades is super easy, in fact most of my trades are winners, but then if you get one big loser even if only every few months it will still wipe out all the previous winners...

I would be surprised if any trader that has been around any amount of time did not go through the big loser experience... What matter is how well and how fast you start protecting yourself and stop having these monster losers, at least this is the challenge for me.

 

[Mysteron]

SC, if you want to make any real progress, you have to be honest with yourself.

When you have your first losing trade, that is bigger than you had initially intended, post what way you really feel, and how you are acting.

No one will laugh at you for getting it wrong, in fact, if you do what I say you will be commended, as most are afraid to tell others they have just made a stupid mistake, and will therefore keep making them.

Back in 2007, when it happened me, I barely slept the night before I closed all open short put positions, and I will never forgot the feelings, with thoughts of losing 100k sterling the following morning.

When I made the phonecall, and gave back just over 17k sterling within 1 minute, it was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.

Facts are, I overtraded, panicked, and did not fully understand how to adjust losing option positions, which I now know how to do, but wish I had made it my business to find out back then

Anyone can make money trading, providing the understand and accept the facts. How much you make, will depend on how much you have, how good you are at reading charts, your risk approach, and your commitment to hard work for to gain the required experiences.

You (general) do not need anyone else, but you do need to act like an adult, and not like a child!

J_S

I'd be very suprised if anyone on ET has not experienced a period of stupidity and ignorance leading to an eye watering loss. My first venture into share trading was around the year 2000, which was in owned shares. Initially there were modest gains and losses and then I had the bright idea of buying shares in the company that I worked for, namely Marconi. I think I lost over £10k by simply clinging on in hope and not getting out and accepting a small loss. At the time it was inconceivable that the company could fail as it was previously so strong and the defense division that I worked for was thriving. The share price fell dramatically and when it went below £1 I recall overhearing one of the senior managers saying that he was going to buy some more shares at that point. Fortunately the defense side of the business was sold off and my job was secure, and despite the loss I didn't have any debts or financial problems.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1339789/Marconi-from-boom-to-bust-in-a-year.html

Marconi: from boom to bust in a year
THIS time last year shares in Marconi were worth £12.50 but yesterday they fell to just 29p. Dan Sabbagh and Sean O'Neill report on the boardroom blunders that turned a world-beating industrial giant into a basket case.

 

[J_Smith]

All part of life experiences, and unless you take the financial trading carrer path, then one needs to do the required homework first.

Advertising is used to get people to part with their money, very effectively, so learning to avoid impulse decisions is a key factor in learning how to hold on to money.

ES behaving as expected.

Let's see what the news brings!

J_S

 

[J_Smith]

J_S

 

[SkyChef]

I'm the person today not because I've won but because I've lost. Since this is the internet, I won't disclose the details, but I do understand (internalize is a better word) the suffering by loss.
I used to be very abusive, talkative, manipulative but the 2 losses I've suffered have changed me forever. Some might called it being tested and it's not very pretty.

However, I do appreciate of your (plural) supports for my journey into my last challenge.

 

[SkyChef]

Entry 1925. All parameters have been defined right after the move up from 1919 to 1926 barely started.
I still need to work on reaction. Target is place holder. Still need to work on target.

PS: Currently, I'm just experiencing all in/out. I will work on free trade later once all the kinks/rusts are out of my brain.

 

[SkyChef]

Nubie mistakes. And the important of correct entry. It's different game now.
PS: Even if the trade is profitable, it's still incorrect in term of target & TF execution.

 

[marketsurfer]

I have not met TZ yet, but he has already been a member of another private group I setup when I started posting here some time ago, and he is a very polite and courteous person, who is actually trading.

That thread got a bit distracted, mostly due to me wasting time with excel, and other crap - those in the group know what I am talking about.

It is now time to get serious, and I am certain that TFF will make money for each group member, once the basic rules are adhered to and trades are placed on a continuous basis - the purpose of the group is to keep each other focused, and prevent silly thought interfering with trading, thus resulting in larger losers than winners, which is the exact opposite to the desired objective.

If the rest of ye want to continue to discuss text book rubbish, ye have our word that we will not interfere, as the main reason for posting on here is to improve on ones results, and that is what TFF is going to do, from this point forward.

I may increase the number to 7, and change the name from TFF to TMS

Btw TZ, nice pic of the restored pickup truck in the grand canyon, beautiful scene. I might take a trip with you some day when you head down that way again, as I passed over the GC but never seen it up close.

J_S

You set up "private" groups from contacts on elite? You should pay Baron as a vendor. Otherwise you should be banned stealth vendor!