Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Quote from mindtrade:

I have read this thread three times probably. Still no idea what the "obvious" is... I don't think there is an obvious as there is just too many factors but I also know I don't know much about anything, so I could be very wrong :)

I also read most of NYSE's posts and he made a few good predictions that panned out almost perfect.

The OP is just f^cking with people. There is something obvious, but it's certainly not intimated in this thread (I read half).
 
Quote from Redneck trader:

Well Nysestocks,

I’ll tell ya what won’t work SLABH, / BHASL

I did both today – then spent the rest of the day digging out of it (still ended the day down $186.38 including commissions)

Am I mad – no, / frustrated with myself – Yep



So (as I imagine you’re still lurking in the shadows) exact your pound of flesh – Lord knows I’ve taken you to task


But at least I’m keeping it real (not meant as slam at you Nysestocks - just me owning up to the truth)


Tomorrow's another day


Redneck


I am reminded of a passage I just read in "Mind Over Market". Not to say, Redneck, that your situation and the situation described in the book are the same...

To summarize the passage below:
The open drive indicated an upward trend - or so it seemed. If only one had realized the market had opened accepting the previous day's value area. This condition suggests limited upward movement. Applying BLASH here would be untimely because the opportunity to Sell High would not come.


FROM "Mind Over Market" BY DALTON, DALTON, AND JONES:

The area around 393.00 in the gold market had been a support level
in the past, and many traders were waiting for a break-out. The Open-
Drive activity and quick buying auctions in Z and A periods might have
inferred that a big move to the upside was developing, leading many
traders to buy all the way up the range. However, traders who recognized
that the day's range potential was limited due to acceptance within
the 12th's value area could have curbed any high expectations and identified
areas providing good trade location.


I do not mean to aim the thread at you, Redneck. Rather, I wish to point out to the general audience that...

Any strategy needs proper context to be effective.

I am a newbie, but as I read this thread, many traders seem to chase the "ever-better indicator" or the "ever-better strategy". Instead, these traders may simply not be applying the proven strategies correctly.



-Sparrow
 
Quote from mindtrade:

I have read this thread three times probably. Still no idea what the "obvious" is... I don't think there is an obvious as there is just too many factors but I also know I don't know much about anything, so I could be very wrong :)

I also read most of NYSE's posts and he made a few good predictions that panned out almost perfect.

What is obvious to me is that the vast majority here are "baffled by the bullshit". There is so much crap spinning around in their heads that they never have time to stop and think rationally about what is required. Trading when broken down into it's individual components is actually very simple. The other aspect is how so many treat their money with the same respect as drunken sailors in a whorehouse, and then bleat when they are the ones that get screwed. I was on a recent flight where I saw a doco about a trader for a large fund who was attempting to trade his way around the world, in the beginning he was confident, he got fleeced on virtually every deal, his knowledge of the markets being negotiated was inferior to his counterparties experience. Come in spinner!

Mindtrade, if you truly realize that you don't know much about anything, then you are streets ahead of the vast majority here on E.T.

Regards

Johno
 
Quote from nysestocks:

Capital is obvious, but what is the "edge"?

The "edge" is a reliable system for making trades that have a positive expectation. If you believe in the efficient market hypothesis that shouldn't even be possible. But to be a successful trader you absolutely must have an edge; money management issues are important but secondary.
 
Quote from Technician:

read first 10 pages.. was there anything at all useful said after 180...

So it only took you 10 pages to realize that someone was taking the piss, I'm sure that there are many who wished that it only took them that long!:D

Regards

Johno
 
Quote from Johno:

What is obvious to me is that the vast majority here are "baffled by the bullshit". There is so much crap spinning around in their heads that they never have time to stop and think rationally about what is required. Trading when broken down into it's individual components is actually very simple. The other aspect is how so many treat their money with the same respect as drunken sailors in a whorehouse, and then bleat when they are the ones that get screwed. I was on a recent flight where I saw a doco about a trader for a large fund who was attempting to trade his way around the world, in the beginning he was confident, he got fleeced on virtually every deal, his knowledge of the markets being negotiated was inferior to his counterparties experience. Come in spinner!

Mindtrade, if you truly realize that you don't know much about anything, then you are streets ahead of the vast majority here on E.T.

Regards

Johno

Well said JO:)

To clarify, NY, TG, MrC and now TE, are all students of one who will probably never post on any site.

Many here think that NY=TG=MrC=TE, but most think incorrectly:D

NY is a very good trader, TG is nearly as good, Mr C still has some problems that he is currently addressing, and TE, well, the name speaks for itself:cool:

As for the remaining trader, well, lets just say that he knows MUCH more than the other 4 all put together:eek:

I have been asked to re-start this thread, so that I will now do, as it is very important in relation to making GOOD money when trading.

So, let us try to solve the riddle of trading profits again, for life is full of riddles, and solving them is what produces results:)

1. What is the main theme in all of the posts by TFF group

2. Why is it necessary to fully understand the theme

3. Why do so many fail in understanding the theme

4. What can one do to help them understand the theme

5. How will one know when they really understand the theme

TE
 
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