Why I might vote for Barack

[insider trading]

Quote from huh:

I would have to disagree with this. I think there have been much worse presidents in US history, but the house/senate/president combination for the past 8 years has been the worst I've experienced. Most people seem to blame the Iraq war for being the reason why "bush is the worst president in history," but you have to remember this isnt' a dictatorship!....Congress gave him the go ahead including demoncrats!

So if bush is an "idiot" than what do you call a congressman that was convinced to go to war by an "idiot"? So bush is not responsible for all this, every member of our government is responsible for the failures of the last 8 years!

If anything, 2000 - 2006 has showed me just how bad having a single party control the house/senate/and presidency can be which only makes me cringe more to think what would happen with a dem house/senate/presidency considering the economic situation we are in.

With Obama still wanting new spending with a possible trillion dollar deficit next year and McCain still grasping to his retarded tax cuts in the face of massive deficits, the least dangerous avenue seems to be a deadlocked washington with dems holding house and senate while McCain runs the ink dry on his veto pen....(although he even screwed up his chances with this Palin circus).

If only a candidate would grow a pair and say I NEED to raise your taxes not for more socialist spending but because taking a HELOC loan on the USA every year from CHINA IS NOT GOING TO END WELL!......Unfortunately we seem to be a nation of subprime borrowers who spend and spend on what we can't afford.....would never accept a candidate who tells the truth.

Well this resume is certainly worthy of Worse President ever consideration



Raise the national debt more then every past president combined

energy policy raised fuel prices 300 %

invade a country that did not attack the US and was no threat to the US under the lies of Weapons of mass destruction

vacation and ignore intelligence that shows the US is about to be attacked and allow the biggest terrorist attack ever happen to this country

make the country and its citizens more hated around the world more then it has ever been

disregard the Constitution and take away more American rights then any other president

all those things combined

 

[Gringinho]

All these complaints about US president abuse of power...
Yet you guys do nothing. That is pretty pathetic.

You guys are like a woman being beaten by her husband. You are afraid of the unknown, and love it when the powerful "benefactor" smiles upon you guys... you all live for the small glimpses of greatness, and shudder in fear and misery from the abuse the rest of the time. You think you are on "the winning team" when you show your loyalty, while you are ignorant to the corruption of society and democracy that you are all upholding by your worshipping of the celebrity symbolism of a political leader.

Yuck.

 

[huh]

Quote from insider trading:

Well this resume is certainly worthy of Worse President ever consideration



Raise the national debt more then every past president combined

energy policy raised fuel prices 300 %

invade a country that did not attack the US and was no threat to the US under the lies of Weapons of mass destruction

vacation and ignore intelligence that shows the US is about to be attacked and allow the biggest terrorist attack ever happen to this country

make the country and its citizens more hated around the world more then it has ever been

disregard the Constitution and take away more American rights then any other president

all those things combined

I think you're giving him far too much credit. I would pin all of the above on the resume of our politicians the last 8 years. Bush didn't single handedly do all this by himself, he got a lot of help from the rest of the government.

I do have to concede your point about the ignoring intelligence showing US is about to be attacked, however I don't believe that if AL Gore would have been president instead, that 911 would not have happened. So even if president Gore was flying on his jet getting ready to give a speech on pollution when he was told about possible threats, I don't know if Gore would have canceled the rest of his scheduled speeches

 

[Specterx]

It's a best-of-the-worst situation but I'm almost certainly going to vote for Democrats across the board. Reason being that the Republicans, as the dominant party and ideology, have been screwing things up for a good 30 years - culminating in this financial crisis that's got people so pissed off at Wall Street they're thinking about a transaction tax.

If the Republicans were a real conservative party rather than some kind of necon/fascist monster then I'd probably vote for them hands down. As it is I have no confidence that McCain would balance the budget, that he'll bring any new faces (of substance, not the Moose Queen's pretty face) to the Washington scene, meaningfully impact the culture, or change the disastrous course of U.S. foreign policy. I also have reservations about the guy's ability to control himself and make reasoned judgments: watching the debate, the only thing that bothered me more than Obama's constant muttering and wishy-washiness was McCain's snarling, barely-contained fury when talking about Iran.

More generally I think the Republicans really need to lose dominant-party status. George Bush is the least-qualified and most inept president we've had in at least a century - maybe since Warren Harding? People say Carter was pretty bad but he was also dealt a series of very poor hands. At the end of the day Carter was a whimpering finish to the New Deal Democrat era, and hopefully GWB will be the bumbling, buffoonish end to the Republican political generation.

I honestly don't know that Obama or the Democrats will be any better, I'm not at all confident that they will, but it's really hard to imagine anything worse than more years of GOP control. Divided government sounds good but McCain scares me, and remember that there are many conservative Democrats in Congress while there are almost no liberal Republicans.

 

[arealpissedgoy]

Quote from Specterx:

It's a best-of-the-worst situation but I'm almost certainly going to vote for Democrats across the board. Reason being that the Republicans, as the dominant party and ideology, have been screwing things up for a good 30 years - culminating in this financial crisis that's got people so pissed off at Wall Street they're thinking about a transaction tax.

If the Republicans were a real conservative party rather than some kind of necon/fascist monster then I'd probably vote for them hands down. As it is I have no confidence that McCain would balance the budget, that he'll bring any new faces (of substance, not the Moose Queen's pretty face) to the Washington scene, meaningfully impact the culture, or change the disastrous course of U.S. foreign policy. I also have reservations about the guy's ability to control himself and make reasoned judgments: watching the debate, the only thing that bothered me more than Obama's constant muttering and wishy-washiness was McCain's snarling, barely-contained fury when talking about Iran.

More generally I think the Republicans really need to lose dominant-party status. George Bush is the least-qualified and most inept president we've had in at least a century - maybe since Warren Harding? People say Carter was pretty bad but he was also dealt a series of very poor hands. At the end of the day Carter was a whimpering finish to the New Deal Democrat era, and hopefully GWB will be the bumbling, buffoonish end to the Republican political generation.

I honestly don't know that Obama or the Democrats will be any better, I'm not at all confident that they will, but it's really hard to imagine anything worse than more years of GOP control. Divided government sounds good but McCain scares me, and remember that there are many conservative Democrats in Congress while there are almost no liberal Republicans.

depressing but true. However having a republican congress would be a better balance with a democrat president. Otherwise the left-wing imbeciles will have too much power.

I would vote for all centrist republicans. Fiscal conservatives like Bloomberg. Unfortunately the party has been taken over by the fanatical taliban shit.

time for a viable centrist 3rd party movement.