Why Fat is the Preferred Fuel for Human Metabolism

[macho grande]

Quote from Rehoboth:

Different topic here.

It is often argued that the growth in the prehistoric human brain was the result of the protein gain by the starting of the consumption of animals(very simplified). I guess my question is, is this true? If we were to look to our prehistoric past, would not the discovery of fire also started this ability to grown brain power? Meaning the ability to cook food now allows the body to absorb more calories then eating raw food alone. Its something like on average for every 1lb of raw vegetables only 50 cals are actually absorbed, but cooking the vegetables seriously amplifies this and allows to eat beans and other previously undigested foods, including parts of an animal. If we were like a gorilla then we would no longer have to spend 90% of our time eating raw food.

I am not a vegetarian but I often hear the carnivore argument that the reason we got out of the monkey stage was we started eating other animals. But I think it might be more of a chicken and egg scenario.

Congratulations.

Vegans, those that adhere to the truer meaning of the term do not consume any packaged processed food products for example cereals, crackers, soymilk, bread etc. Those are the true vegans, they don't supplement with bottled pills or fortified foods which are nothing more than processed packaged boxed food STUFF with vitamin pills added.

These vegans suffer from vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

The addition of adequate meat & fish can only improve the nutrient quality & quantity of the meal.

 

[tradinglucy]

I read somewhere that Vegans suffer from a not-so-well-known deficiency called "lack of tasty food".

 

[resinate]

You did not say one correct thing in this post including your definition of vegan.

Quote from macho grande:

Congratulations.

Vegans, those that adhere to the truer meaning of the term do not consume any packaged processed food products for example cereals, crackers, soymilk, bread etc. Those are the true vegans, they don't supplement with bottled pills or fortified foods which are nothing more than processed packaged boxed food STUFF with vitamin pills added.

These vegans suffer from vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

The addition of adequate meat & fish can only improve the nutrient quality & quantity of the meal.

 

[NoDoji]

Quote from macho grande:

Congratulations.

Vegans, those that adhere to the truer meaning of the term do not consume any packaged processed food products for example cereals, crackers, soymilk, bread etc. Those are the true vegans, they don't supplement with bottled pills or fortified foods which are nothing more than processed packaged boxed food STUFF with vitamin pills added.

These vegans suffer from vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

The addition of adequate meat & fish can only improve the nutrient quality & quantity of the meal.

Vegans are people who avoid any product that comes from an animal or requires testing on animals. This means no silk, no leather, no honey (and no leather, Honey).

Vegans can consume French fries, potato chips, vegan cookies/cakes/pies, vegan ice cream, vegan meat analogs, cereal out of a box, Mountain Dew, all kinds of processed foods that offer few nutrients, plenty of fat and enough sugar to feed most cancers. "Vegan" and "vegetarian" do not = "healthy".

People who eat a whole foods plant-based diet avoid refined foods (no white flour, refined sugars, added oils), consume a spectrum of nutrient-dense whole foods (beans, grains, seeds, fruits, vegetables) and as a result suffer no nutritional deficiencies, require no supplements, and can prevent (and often reverse) lifestyle induced chronic maladies such as type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, heart disease, ED, allergies, asthma, gastrointestinal diseases, and several types of cancer.

Meat and fish offer no nutrients that aren't provided fully by a whole foods plant-based diet. They do offer significantly higher levels of toxins than conventionally grown produce, and plenty of fat, which we need in large quantities to sustain us through those long stretches of near-starvation we endure while foraging in the wilderness for profitable trades.

In fact, based on the recommended daily levels of omega 3's, a whole foods plant-based diet with no flax seed or walnuts included exceeds the daily recommended requirements. If you add a serving of flax seed or walnuts daily, you exceed the requirements twice over. A serving of flax seed provides more than the highest fish sources.

 

[NoDoji]

Quote from tradinglucy:

I read somewhere that Vegans suffer from a not-so-well-known deficiency called "lack of tasty food".

Yeah, those are the potato chip/mountain Dew vegans.

The only deficiency in someone who can't find taste in the huge spectrum of whole plant foods is a deficiency in the ability to break free from the brainwashing and addiction accomplished by the processed food industries.

I'd like to see anyone consume a high protein, high fat, low carb diet without added salt or sugar substitutes and tell me it's tasty. No cheese, no bacon, no sausage, no canned meats/fish, no salt and pepper on your omelette.

Keep on believing the myths so you can feel good about your bad habits; it's what the publicly traded corporations want and need from their herds of sheeple.

It takes about 3 months on a whole foods plant-based diet to break free from the lifelong programming you've been subjected to. It's painful at first, because you're addicted to the pleasure circuit activation that fat/salt/sugar provides on a daily basis, plus the casomorphins (similar to opiates) found in dairy products.

Once you break free, the taste of whole foods is wonderful.

If you look at what most babies prefer before they've been run through the food industry brainwashing like their parents, you find that it's cereals, fruits and vegetables. Very few will eat meat.

 

[macho grande]

Quote from NoDoji:

Vegans are people who avoid any product that comes from an animal or requires testing on animals. This means no silk, no leather, no honey (and no leather, Honey).

Vegans can consume French fries, potato chips, vegan cookies/cakes/pies, vegan ice cream, vegan meat analogs, cereal out of a box, Mountain Dew, all kinds of processed foods that offer few nutrients, plenty of fat and enough sugar to feed most cancers. "Vegan" and "vegetarian" do not = "healthy".

People who eat a whole foods plant-based diet avoid refined foods (no white flour, refined sugars, added oils), consume a spectrum of nutrient-dense whole foods (beans, grains, seeds, fruits, vegetables) and as a result suffer no nutritional deficiencies, require no supplements, and can prevent (and often reverse) lifestyle induced chronic maladies such as type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, heart disease, ED, allergies, asthma, gastrointestinal diseases, and several types of cancer.

Meat and fish offer no nutrients that aren't provided fully by a whole foods plant-based diet. They do offer significantly higher levels of toxins than conventionally grown produce, and plenty of fat, which we need in large quantities to sustain us through those long stretches of near-starvation we endure while foraging in the wilderness for profitable trades.

In fact, based on the recommended daily levels of omega 3's, a whole foods plant-based diet with no flax seed or walnuts included exceeds the daily recommended requirements. If you add a serving of flax seed or walnuts daily, you exceed the requirements twice over. A serving of flax seed provides more than the highest fish sources.

Once again, "beans, grains, seeds, fruits, vegetables" do not contain any B12. Vegans must SUPPLEMENT B12 with a vitamin pill or thru eating a FORTIFIED processed food product such as boxed cereal (really just a B12 vitamin pill added to the product) .

How anyone can claim the perfect diet is the vegan diet since they must supplement to prevent deficiency is beyond me. Meat/fish supplies those deficient nutrients and obviates the need for refined food stuffs in one's diet.

Eat your cherrrios and drink your soymilk

 

[kgharris]

Quote from macho grande:

Congratulations.

Vegans, those that adhere to the truer meaning of the term do not consume any packaged processed food products for example cereals, crackers, soymilk, bread etc. Those are the true vegans, they don't supplement with bottled pills or fortified foods which are nothing more than processed packaged boxed food STUFF with vitamin pills added.

These vegans suffer from vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

The addition of adequate meat & fish can only improve the nutrient quality & quantity of the meal.

You seem incredibly dense, but you do have the gift of being completely wrong in 90% of the stuff you post. So, you've got that going for you.

 

[as678]

Quote from NoDoji:


If you look at what most babies prefer before they've been run through the food industry brainwashing like their parents, you find that it's cereals, fruits and vegetables. Very few will eat meat.

Is that right? I definitely agree that Americans eat way too much meat. So much meat that it hurts their personal health and environmental health.

 

[NoDoji]

Quote from macho grande:

Once again, "beans, grains, seeds, fruits, vegetables" do not contain any B12. Vegans must SUPPLEMENT B12 with a vitamin pill or thru eating a FORTIFIED processed food product such as boxed cereal (really just a B12 vitamin pill added to the product) .

How anyone can claim the perfect diet is the vegan diet since they must supplement to prevent deficiency is beyond me. Meat/fish supplies those deficient nutrients and obviates the need for refined food stuffs in one's diet.

Eat your cherrrios and drink your soymilk

We'd get B12 from the soil if Big Food hadn't stripped the soil of its life, only to "fortify" it with fertilizers.

Where do you think the Meat gets B12? From soil and water.

I'll gladly get my B12 from some nutritional yeast or cereal or non-dairy milks, in exchange for avoiding the chronic diseases that drain the life from our bodies and our country's economy.

 

[macho grande]

Quote from NoDoji:

We'd get B12 from the soil if Big Food hadn't stripped the soil of its life, only to "fortify" it with fertilizers.

This is more vegan propaganda that eating dirt would supply all the B12 they need and then some, the RDA for B12 for adults is set at 2.4mcg/daily. If only they could eat the dirt but alas they cannot.

Bottom line, no proof of claim.

Where do you think the Meat gets B12? From soil and water.

I'll gladly get my B12 from some nutritional yeast or cereal or non-dairy milks, in exchange for avoiding the chronic diseases that drain the life from our bodies and our country's economy.

"Nutritional yeast" is nothing more than yeast with a B12 vitamin added (natural Yeast does not have any B12; isn't that what you vegans are striving for natural unrefined whole food source?)

I've asked this before of you but it's fallen on deaf ears...show us the the proof that adequate amounts of natural lean meat and fish results in greater morbidity and mortality vs vegan where calories are controlled.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

An adequate serving or two of lean meat or fish added to the meal each day protects against vitamin and mineral deficiency B12 included, and vit K2 lack of which is implicated in atherosclerosis. Mitigates insulin and all the nastiness of the "sugar" spike from excess carbs in the meal, spares muscle wasting/atrophy especially during weight loss and aging. The longest lived populations are not vegans, but those that include adequate meat/fish (Okinawan) in their diet.

Ask yourself where are all the vegan centenarians? It's the perfect way to eat so where are they??