Why everything you've been told about evolution is wrong
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i've got that atheist feeling, now how can you prove your feeling is right
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i've got that atheist feeling, now how can you prove your feeling is right
If you're arguing both sides, as I often do, then we're gonna be at this for a loong time. ; )
I know it's "right" because I have the feeling. Since feelings are acceptable evidence in the religious worldview, that's my evidence.
lots of people (witches) got burned on FEELINGS. good luck with that (moron)
You et atheists are so emotional you do not even respond to science.
Its pretty fricken funny.
I present science and you present philosophy.
There is circumstantial evidence the universe had a creator. That is why top scientists including nobel prize winners make statements like the universe appears designed.
Accept that fact and then you can then speculate why the evidence might be misleading... Or why you do not accept it. Otherwise your arguments are the arguments of fools.
Its pretty fricken funny.
I present science and you present philosophy.
There is circumstantial evidence the universe had a creator. That is why top scientists including nobel prize winners make statements like the universe appears designed.
Accept that fact and then you can then speculate why the evidence might be misleading... Or why you do not accept it. Otherwise your arguments are the arguments of fools.
jem,
do you see the wisdom in stu's post:
The flip side of not being able to prove something isn't more of the same.
Can't prove God , can't prove big bang , would be one side of the same coin surely?
On the flip side of the coin might be things that can be proved.
Like for instance the power which you say must guide the universe. Gravity does exactly that.
The universe from a dot or from nowhere is something unimaginable, but a creator from nothing or nowhere is something imaginable.
Yet a creator is on the unproven side of the coin. The universe on the flipside.
How come the universe is not already all the things any divine power could ever be described as?
Isn't the principle of self-awareness across all living things primarily survival?
Morals and ethics themselves must come before religion. Otherwise how if religion is supposed to be a foundation for life, could anyone have a moral or ethical motivation to say it was?
Prove with 100% accuracy?
Religion is certainty without fact. On the flipside, science is fact without certainty.
Around the edge of the coin I suggest, are those things that have facts and proofs in them but have not yet been proven in all aspects themselves. Like big bang
how much more reasonable do we atheists need to be for god's sake?
Gravity doesn't "guide" the universe...
There you go again, attributing human qualities to lifeless forces found in nature...
Not surprising really, the primitives worshiped the sun, the wind, fire, rain, etc.
So the current so called science worshipers attribute human qualities of guidance and creativity to lifeless forces, even going to the absurd extreme as to call a water droplet a designer...
I have no problem with people worshiping qualities of nature, or even attributing human attributes to lifeless forces of nature, fine by me...
...but that really isn't a new religion, been around for a long, long, long time, and it really doesn't dispel faith in God one bit...
Just another faith, another religion, another form of worship and projected ideas onto the unknown and unknowable...
There you go again, attributing human qualities to lifeless forces found in nature...
Not surprising really, the primitives worshiped the sun, the wind, fire, rain, etc.
So the current so called science worshipers attribute human qualities of guidance and creativity to lifeless forces, even going to the absurd extreme as to call a water droplet a designer...
I have no problem with people worshiping qualities of nature, or even attributing human attributes to lifeless forces of nature, fine by me...
...but that really isn't a new religion, been around for a long, long, long time, and it really doesn't dispel faith in God one bit...
Just another faith, another religion, another form of worship and projected ideas onto the unknown and unknowable...
Same tired ass argument, religion this, religion that. A simple fact you guys just can't seem to get though your heads, it ain't about religion! A Creator does not need religion to exist. If you could ever get past your contempt for organized religion you would see that.
There are plenty of good reasons to piss and moan about organized religion, all of which have absolutely nothing to do with whether a Creator exists or not. For all we know the Creator might be a scientist. Wouldn't that bust your balls!