Why do we need a 400 million a pop F-22 jet to blow up camels?

Quote from Free Thinker:

in the information age with video cameras and satellites everywhere do you think we might know if china ever decides to build a fighter that we need to worry about? you dont build these things over night. it takes years to build up a military industrial complex.

Did we know they were developing a missile that could shoot down satellites? They are in the process of building up. And India I believe is working on a stealth fighter as well. IMO it is better to stay ahead of the curve. You keep ignoring the fact that there is a bunch of worthless, purposeless garbage that we could cut right now without downgrading our defense at all. So many agencies, grants, programs, public funding of private companies, foreign aid, entitlements, mathematically unsustainable govt pensions, government pay and bennies, govt jobs etc., it is a very long list.. the F-22 is somewhere near the bottom.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

China is a capable opponent, they will continue to gain ground on us for the foreseeable future and Russia still has a more than capable military. the B-52's are doing all the work in Iraq because they are basically untouchable by what we are facing there.. that wouldn't be the case in a war against a modern military. The B-1 is viewed as a waste of money now, but that is hindsight.. you could make that case against all obsolete equipment. We should maintain what we already have, it is not preparing for the 'last war', it is strategic defense of our nation and a deterrent to actual war. I believe that bomber base is in SD because North is the shortest route to Moscow.

I am just repeating myself but defense is necessary and there are many other fed programs and agencies etc that are not, which should be scrapped before digging into defense.. we could start with GSA.

China and Russia spend around 100 billion a year on defense and nobody fucks with them,we spend 700 billion

We have enough nukes to destroy the world and nearly half of US households own a gun.This country is safe without having to spend 700 billion a year on the military industrial complex

Before Bush increased the defense budget from 300 billion to 700 billion we were safe with Clinton only spending 300 billion a year
 
No additional F-22 aircraft are going to be purchased so the entire point of this thread is moot. The money was spent long ago and the production line dismantled like 2 years ago.

There may be a retrofit of the O2 system but aside from that there is no money being spent.

ET is such a riot. The only guy in here that knows the rubber side goes down and the shiny side goes up is Lucrum.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

China and Russia spend around 100 billion a year on defense and nobody fucks with them,we spend 700 billion

We have enough nukes to destroy the world and nearly half of US households own a gun.This country is safe without having to spend 700 billion a year on the military industrial complex

Before Bush increased the defense budget from 300 billion to 700 billion we were safe with Clinton only spending 300 billion a year

Ok like I said earlier, the military budget should be cut as well.. I just don't agree with the raptor. It is without equal and it is important to national defense. What do u think about cutting all the other shit out of the budget?

I find it strange that dems are so eager to slash defense spending but they want universal healthcare, new agencies for every crime, the taxpayer to buy contraception for everyone etc.. it is mostly all useless waste.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

Ok like I said earlier, the military budget should be cut as well.. I just don't agree with the raptor. It is without equal and it is important to national defense. What do u think about cutting all the other shit out of the budget?

I find it strange that dems are so eager to slash defense spending but they want universal healthcare, new agencies for every crime, the taxpayer to buy contraception for everyone etc.. it is mostly all useless waste.

I'm cool with the raptor.We can go back to Clinton's 300 billion dollar defense budget and still buy nice toys like the raptor.Its wars,playing world police ,occupying other nations and having bases in other nations that needs to be cut

I agree with cutting a bunch of other budget shit as well.Cut 1 dollar from defense,1 dollar from welfare /social /government agency spending,raise taxes 1 dollar until the budget is balanced
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

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The only guy in here that knows the rubber side goes down and the shiny side goes up is Lucrum.

Uhh, turn the shiny side up like the rest of us then genius.

You're right ET is a riot.
 
Hola,

I am retarted (makes me a good trader--I follow my trading plan; you know, like a special-needs worker in a restaurant kitchen).

What does this 'rubber' reference mean?

Thanks pimps! Interesting thread--lots of good viewpoints.

peace

Hedvig
 
Quote from jem:


I would not want to suck filtered engine bleed air for a fricken minute if I had a choice.


I recommend not flying on the airlines then, because that's exactly what you're breathing while on board.
 
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