Why do atheist's fear God?
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That's an infinitesimally tiny number. An infinitesimally tiny number does not have to be fine tuned. An infinitesimally tiny number need only be an inevitable outcome due entirely to fundamental properties and or environment. poof goes your fine tuning.
You've never known the difference between what's science and what's not science. Ironically you are tuned... to only respond to religiously motivated pseudo science.
how many times do I have to tell you that is the point... what you are arguing for is the hoped for theory of everything that would explain why that tiny number had to be that way... which is really just one step back... why would that number be that way that made this universe right for life.
do you really think the ratio one chance in greater than all the atoms in the universe - is a random tuning?
according to penrose not even a multiverse can explain that number.
now... here is penrose again... explaining it to you... that it is fine tuning... and penrose is one of the top minds in science and not religious.
do you really think the ratio one chance in greater than all the atoms in the universe - is a random tuning?
according to penrose not even a multiverse can explain that number.
now... here is penrose again... explaining it to you... that it is fine tuning... and penrose is one of the top minds in science and not religious.
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I am not so sure about that... the fundamental constants are also called dimensionless. they are more like ratios rather than units of measurement. Light is measured in miles pers second... these dimensionsless constants are not like that they are not calculated they are observed.
here is an example...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_physical_constant
There is a most profound and beautiful question associated with the observed coupling constant, e – the amplitude for a real electron to emit or absorb a real photon. It is a simple number that has been experimentally determined to be close to 0.08542455. (My physicist friends won't recognize this number, because they like to remember it as the inverse of its square: about 137.03597 with about an uncertainty of about 2 in the last decimal place. It has been a mystery ever since it was discovered more than fifty years ago, and all good theoretical physicists put this number up on their wall and worry about it.) Immediately you would like to know where this number for a coupling comes from: is it related to pi or perhaps to the base of natural logarithms? Nobody knows. It's one of the greatest damn mysteries of physics: a magic number that comes to us with no understanding by man. You might say the "hand of God" wrote that number, and "we don't know how He pushed his pencil." We know what kind of a dance to do experimentally to measure this number very accurately, but we don't know what kind of dance to do on the computer to make this number come out, without putting it in secretly!
—Richard Feynman, Richard P. Feynman (1985). QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter. Princeton University Press. p. 129. ISBN 0-691-08388-6.
here is an example...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_physical_constant
There is a most profound and beautiful question associated with the observed coupling constant, e – the amplitude for a real electron to emit or absorb a real photon. It is a simple number that has been experimentally determined to be close to 0.08542455. (My physicist friends won't recognize this number, because they like to remember it as the inverse of its square: about 137.03597 with about an uncertainty of about 2 in the last decimal place. It has been a mystery ever since it was discovered more than fifty years ago, and all good theoretical physicists put this number up on their wall and worry about it.) Immediately you would like to know where this number for a coupling comes from: is it related to pi or perhaps to the base of natural logarithms? Nobody knows. It's one of the greatest damn mysteries of physics: a magic number that comes to us with no understanding by man. You might say the "hand of God" wrote that number, and "we don't know how He pushed his pencil." We know what kind of a dance to do experimentally to measure this number very accurately, but we don't know what kind of dance to do on the computer to make this number come out, without putting it in secretly!
—Richard Feynman, Richard P. Feynman (1985). QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter. Princeton University Press. p. 129. ISBN 0-691-08388-6.