Quote from Lucias:
NoDoji don't mean to get you wound up. But I'll try to add my insights and answer your questions.
>I can't think of a single good reason for me personally to enter a >trading contest or to document my abilities.
The main reason to do this is that there is huge money and opportunity for the winners, prestige, ability to prove you did it. Even, if you personally are not interested in any of that -- many people are and its possible to see their results. Obviously, it varies year to year but 50% to 300% returns offer the chance of winning. Let me repeat, there is big money for the winners. I would enter if i could get the capital.
I entered 2 real money contests, one in 80's, stocks, and the other in the 90's, futures, won them both with plus 275% returns over six months, big deal, I was mainly trading against a friend and won contests outright. I didn't do it for prestige, and certainly didn't want to work for anyone else, THAT a major step down for me, don't want the bs of managing OPM, and for what, a lousy 20%? AND YEAH, I started out as a small retail trader, blew out a ton of accounts in futures. Any time working for the public, you really work your tail off for their money, tried it and no thanks. Until you do it, you only go by dreams.
Quote from Lucias:
Well, first I've been able to predict/forecast the market in advance. I've never met anyone with that ability. But, also, I have 2 of the top ranked futures systems at C2 over the longest period of time (out of thousands). Again, it doesn't matter if you think C2 is silly, the point is that thousands of people try this and couldn't do better. So, over the years I've monitored the futures traders. I'd say most systems I've watched and traders have "broken" down. I, also, know word cup winners and what they are capable of.
I was also good friends (at one time) with Dr. Steenbarger. He now works at a prestigious hedge fund. He was a fixture of the futures community for many years. He wrote on his blog that he had never met a small retail trader who traded for a living: never ever had he seen such ability documented. You'd think if anyone would know then he would know.[/B]
WOW, you can predict the future? Can you give me the lottery numbers? You can't predict shit, otherwise you would own the world and you can't even come up with 10k? Thousands of people put it on C2 cause they have no system worthy to make outstanding money, cause when you do, you wouldn't be dumb enough to do it. I don't want to collect crummy $300 a month and have to compete against others for good prices. And I don't know Steenbarger, but I don't hang out too many places, who has the time?
Quote from Lucias:
But... wait there's more. There are published results from CTA's, hedge funds, etc. If you take the long term 5 year to 10 year results from money managers then Sharpe ratios drop to below 1. In other words, the best managers over the long run only do around 1:1 risk/reward.
Obviously.. I have my records and anyone can see what I've did. I know for sure that if I could get into World Cup then I would (I will enter if anyone funds me and PM ME).. [/B]
Funds often make more in management fees than the 20%. If they are not real money records, only the dumb/greedy will give you any funds.

