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Quote from stockerup:

Faith is alive and well in the USA.

The use of the name of Jesus (more than one translation), God, the use of the Bible, and references to scriptures in the Bible says it all.

What an awesome inauguration.

to me it does not inspire confidence when our leaders all stand around bowing to some unseen deity in the sky that educated people should know is a primitive myth.
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

bowing is one thing but taking orders another :D

i refuse to bow at prayer rituals. i will not surrender to groupthink. i am always head held high and eyes wide open.
 
Quote from stockerup:

Faith is alive and well in the USA.

The use of the name of Jesus (more than one translation), God, the use of the Bible, and references to scriptures in the Bible says it all.

What an awesome inauguration.
" For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus - and non-believers. " Barack Obama Inaugural Address January 20th, 2009

Awsome indeed.
inclusivity coming through! .....what a refreshing change.
No faith. Alive and well in America.
 
Quote from vhehn:

i refuse to bow at prayer rituals. i will not surrender to groupthink. i am always head held high and eyes wide open.

there's true UTILITY in the adage 'give me a reason" :)
 
Quote from oddiduro:

Brother, as I do not know if you are a Christ I will call you Phil:)

Phil,

You suggest that we are all the one being, experiencing a three dimensional video game for the experience of mortality. Is this correct?

To make it more interesting, we have thrown ourselves into a maze and then forgot the map, so that we could find our way out.

This game is made in artificial time so that we could feel artificial pressure to give us some sort of stimulus. That way we could experience something as we are immortal and eternal.

So, tell me, where is it that we came from? Where is our home? We are sentient, so we had to have come from somewhere before we got here, now, where is that place?

Brother, since I do not know if you are oddiduro, I will call you Peter..."the rock"! :)

Your articulation of my position is most prescient.
I can see that you grasp the main points quickly.

Open your mind one more time and try to get your head around this next one.

Home is Self.
Self is the totality of everything.
The totality of everything has no "place".
The world inludes the concept that there can be a "place" for the Son of God to "lay his head".
But, in fact, it is impossible to place limits, or otherwise define what knows no place, nor time in which to be "there".

Once you grasp this, you can then comprehend how it is that the whole world is "within you"...and...how the entire "Kingdom of God" is also "within you".
The world is in you as an idea.
The idea functions as a speck in your eye, temporarily blinding you to what is "in front of your face".
What is "in front" of you is all that is you.
What is "in front" of man's eyes is all that is nOt you.
All experiences are your experience, though you seem to be limited to only one.
All experience is your experience, whether true or false, fake or real, truth or illusion.
What is in front of the face of man is a tiny - crazy - thought in his true mind.
The tiny thought blinds man entirely to what gives rise to the thought.
The thought is blinding, and is intended to blind.
So,
Where is this mind?
Where is this mind that is playing games?
Where is the mind that is ending games?
Where is the mind that never knew of such games?
Where is the mind that would laugh at such games?

This cannot be defined and has no meaning in reality.
It is through seeking no place that we find our true "place".
That place is our "home".

When you look at the world, you see only what is nOt representative of your mind.
The world is a mask over your mind.
The world buries your mind under layers of sub/un/consciousness, and all kinds of "dirt".
The entire sub/un/conscious structure is for keeping secrets.
The split levels of mind are for self-deception.
The split levels are for self-sabatoge.
There are really no split levels of your mind.
The splits and levels are part of a grand game.

In reality, you know everything, all at once.
Every thought you have is shared with the totality instantly.
There are no thoughts that exist outside of your mind.
The thoughts of GoD are within your mind.
Your mind is equal in magnitude and scope to that of the One who has gifted it to you.

In brief,
You are "home", as you really are.
You are nOt home, as a self-cOncept. [think: "con" cept]
The world is a singular self-concept.
Hence,
"Know thy Self".

I sometimes call Self "Christ".
There are really no words to describe.
But if there was a word, it would be a single word, ie. Christ!
There are no limits!

The difference in experience is the difference between being aware or unaware.
Going home is all about rising above a temporarily constricted awareness.
The metaphor for this process is to go from sleep to awake.
Home is full awareness.
Home is the knowledge of oneness, without split level games.

GoDspeeD,

Christ!
 
Quote from oddiduro:

I have read the bible and I know the religion is important to civilization. I am willing to look past typos and mistranslations because the moral is that God is a God of love.

Well I love my daughter, and she loves jellybeans. Does it make sense to leave jellybeans in the middle of her bedroom floor until she eats one so I can throw her out in the snow? Is that love? Especially if I were 100 percent sure that she would indeed eat one because I know the future?

Faithfull???? Can we talk about this??

See the funny thing is that I believe in God, but some of the stories that people tell about the supreme being is just downright slander and/or libel.
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oDDID-URO;
Would you/daughter think it strange that my Dad & mom did not hardly let me eat sweets often, or white bread. But they loved me much, told me they did, love me ,hugged me.

I hope you love your daughter[God bless her!];
enough to keep her from eating anything/all she wants.
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Another lesson from that Book of Genesis incident;
ther are some God ordained limits to man, or an evil empire.

Also Adam & Eve were adults;
personal responsibility is part of life, reguardless of redemption beliefs or Bible beliefs.Does the media have you playing the blame game??????They got to eat all except {one} tree

Free will /choices are important to God;
i hope your daughter learns the Bible as a kid, best time.
:cool:
 
Quote from vhehn:

if god is all powerful and all knowing then every evil thing that happens has his blessing according to his plan. that means god knew 911 was going to happen and one could say wanted it to happen.
that makes osama a servent of god and why does not george bush go after the leader of the 911 attack, god?
it is the same as the judas betrayal story in the bible. was judas a villian or a good servant of god?



God has given everyone free will. Just because someone's choice was evil towards others does not mean it has God's blessing. You atheist sure are getting more desperate by the minute.
 
Quote from volente_00:

God has given everyone free will. Just because someone's choice was evil towards others does not mean it has God's blessing. You atheist sure are getting more desperate by the minute.

Yea, but He allowed it to happen, regardless.

Thats the point.
 
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