Why creation science is an oxymoron

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Pardon me, but what proof do you have that you are not in a mental institution right now and are just dreaming all of the experiences flowing through your mind?
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Because unlike you, I know what reality is.
 
Yes, the point is that you don't even know you are not dreaming at this moment...

You can't even see the back of your own head with your own eyes...

You can't even catch a fly with your bare hands...

Yet you know what reality is?

Too funny...

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You have a point?
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Quote from OPTIONAL777:

No, if you pay attention you would understand that I did not say God cannot be measured by any means. God is beyond physical instrumentation...

...but so is the entire mental realm, so is the entirety of the universe, etc.

An atheist is denying the ontological argument, the concept of entirety, the concept of greatest, etc.
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So what are the means that he can be measured, if at all?

My point being that your concept of God is a purely theoretical exercise on a personal level and is not a reflection on someone else if he denies it without any validation. They can believe in the 'nothingness' concept prevalent in eastern scriptures of Buddhism or Hinduism and still have a valid path to further enquiry without a borrowed concept of someone else's personal god form.
 
By what means can you measure the love of a mother for a child?

Their actions?

LOL!!!

Since the motive for actions is unknowable by the actions alone...

...well, try harder to come up with something that is not so easy to refute.

Quote from hermit:

So what are the means that he can be measured, if at all?

My point being that your concept of God is a purely theoretical exercise on a personal level and is not a reflection on someone else if he denies it without any validation. They can believe in the 'nothingness' concept prevalent in eastern scriptures of Buddhism or Hinduism and still have a valid path to further enquiry without a borrowed concept of someone else's personal god form.
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By what means can you measure the love of a mother for a child?

Their actions?

LOL!!!

Since the motive for actions is unknowable by the actions alone...

...well, try harder to come up with something that is not so easy to refute.
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When you say 'love' between mother and child, there is the thing called love which is a human emotion/state of mind/behavioral/genetic etc which I am not denying exists.

Now in cae of god, what exactly am I denying here? Thats all I want to know.
 
So you believe the love between a mother and child is simply a human emotion/state of mind/behavioral/genetic etc.

Sounds like you had a great childhood...

This still being Valentine's Day on the West Coast...does your boyfriend/girlfriend/mother/father know you views on love?

LOL!!!

In any case, the love that you say exists cannot be measured by scientific instrumentation...

Quote from hermit:

When you say 'love' between mother and child, there is the thing called love which is a human emotion/state of mind/behavioral/genetic etc which I am not denying exists.

Now in cae of god, what exactly am I denying here? Thats all I want to know.
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Quote from OPTIONAL777:

So you believe the love between a mother and child is simply a human emotion/state of mind/behavioral/genetic etc.

Sounds like you have a great childhood...

This still being Valentine's Day on the West Coast...does your boyfriend/girlfriend/mother/father know you views on love?

LOL!!!

In any case, the love that you say exists cannot be measured by scientific instrumentation...
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You just want to make this into a semantics fest. I am asking what exactly is an atheist denying and you introduce a double bind like this was a political debate.
 
It is not a semantics issue at all.

It is impossible to know someone's motive, yet it exists. Love is an inner quality, not something that is known with the senses.

Actions can be measured, but not someone's intent. Every day on TV or the movies we see actor pretending to feel, to be in love with someone else, etc...when it is just an act, i.e. not genuine.

Plenty of things exist in our lives that cannot be measured or known to be true with scientific instrumentation...

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You just want to make this into a semantics fest. I am asking what exactly is an atheist denying and you introduce a double bind like this was a political debate.
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