Why creation science is an oxymoron

Oh well, if I have to illustrate how stupid your use of language is...

If the sun "makes" weather, then the oven "makes" the cake...

Quote from kut2k2:

LOL

from dictionary.com:

evaporate
–verb (used with object)
4. to convert into a gaseous state or vapor; drive off or extract in the form of vapor: The warm sun evaporated the dew.

Dude, get a grip. If this is the best you can come up with to attack me for defending evolution, just give up already.

Speaking being soooo stupid about science: there are no chemical reactions in the sun; it's all nuclear reactions.
 
Speaking being soooo stupid about science: there are no chemical reactions in the sun; it's all nuclear reactions.

The source of the sun's fuel is hydrogen and helium gases. Through a special chemical reaction, called nuclear fusion, the hydrogen gas is "burned" releasing an enormous amount of energy in the form of light and heat.

http://www.extremescience.com/sun.htm


Quote from kut2k2:

LOL

from dictionary.com:

evaporate
–verb (used with object)
4. to convert into a gaseous state or vapor; drive off or extract in the form of vapor: The warm sun evaporated the dew.

Dude, get a grip. If this is the best you can come up with to attack me for defending evolution, just give up already.

Speaking being soooo stupid about science: there are no chemical reactions in the sun; it's all nuclear reactions.
 
Quote from stu:

Well erm, ok Barth, buts that's like me asking you what does the formal methodology concerning how to apply reason to the study of fish tell you about things that actually live in the sea?
Then you reply, the formal study of fish and fanciful imaginations are both based on faith.

They are not.
The former obviously is based on the formal methodology concerning how to apply reason. The latter is based on fanciful imaginations

The formal methodology concerning how to apply reason to the world about us brought forth Evolution.
Your faith, which has shown cannot be based on that formal methodology concerning how to apply reason , because it is about Gods, Goblins and all manner of Fanciful Things, tells you what?
To just to assume Evolution is at a stage of gross disorder at this point. !?

What does that tell you?
To keep on fallaciously comparing a formal methodology concerning how to apply reason, against fanciful imaginations, with the word faith.?


I'm looking for the penalty flag.

stu, I think you have misunderstood my remarks.

I would venture to say that 90% of what we call science is empirical. There is no dispute with classical science and faith.

My remarks regarding faith were aimed at the portions [rather large portions, I might add] of the theory of evolution that cannot be observed and cannot be replicated in the lab, and which in fact are held together by the use of large amounts of time. Vast amounts of time.

So, my friend, you tell me the difference between my faith, and the important components of the evolutionary theory that are hypothetical scenarios that by design needed to occur millions and billions of years ago, which you believe happened but have not one shred of evidence to confirm it.
 
Quote from Barth Vader:

I'm looking for the penalty flag.

stu, I think you have misunderstood my remarks.

I would venture to say that 90% of what we call science is empirical. There is no dispute with classical science and faith.

My remarks regarding faith were aimed at the portions [rather large portions, I might add] of the theory of evolution that cannot be observed and cannot be replicated in the lab, and which in fact are held together by the use of large amounts of time. Vast amounts of time.

So, my friend, you tell me the difference between my faith, and the important components of the evolutionary theory that are hypothetical scenarios that by design needed to occur millions and billions of years ago, which you believe happened but have not one shred of evidence to confirm it.
WTF, dude. There is a huge dispute between science and faith. Faith is belief without evidence, whereas science is all about the evidence. Nobody proposes a scientific theory without evidence to back it up. A lot of scientific theories have been wrong, but only because they couldn't explain new evidence whereas a better theory could explain the old evidence plus the new evidence.

You say evolution has no evidence but that couldn't be more wrong. The fossil record is filled with species that no longer exist, and very few modern lifeforms are found in the fossil record. There are even some transitional species in the fossil record.

If that's not iron-clad evidence that life evolves, give us your theory.
 
Unfortunately modern day atheistic science is no longer about the evidence.

Modern day science is about making up fantasy connections to data points that are not truly based on evidence in any fashion...

Scientists will always speculation, but their speculations are not evidence of anything but their own imaginations at work...

That the followers of atheistic science then pronounce the mythology of scientists as facts of science is proof that atheists have taken to a faith based religion, where scientists serve the same role as shamans or prophets of the past...

Quote from kut2k2:

Faith is belief without evidence, whereas science is all about the evidence. Nobody proposes a scientific theory without evidence to back it up. A lot of scientific theories have been wrong, but only because they couldn't explain new evidence whereas a better theory could explain the old evidence plus the new evidence.

You say evolution has no evidence but that couldn't be more wrong. The fossil record is filled with species that no longer exist, and very few modern lifeforms are found in the fossil record. If that's not iron-clad evidence that life evolves, give us your theory.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Unfortunately modern day atheistic science is no longer about the evidence.

Modern day science is about making up fantasy connections to data points that are not truly based on evidence in any fashion...

Scientists will always speculation, but their speculations are not evidence of anything but their own imaginations at work...

That the followers of atheistic science then pronounce the mythology of scientists as facts of science is proof that atheists have taken to a faith based religion, where scientists serve the same role as shamans or prophets of the past...
Apparently your definition of "modern day atheistic science" includes Darwinism (1859).

If there's no evidence, these "fraud" sciences should be easy to expose. Yet all you ever do is accuse without a shred of evidence of your own to back up your accusations.
 
Darwin never said anything near what modern day atheistic scientists are claiming he said...

Darwin presented his observations, threw out a theory, and that was it.

Darwin was in no way an atheist...

Quote from kut2k2:

Apparently your definition of "modern day atheistic science" includes Darwinism (1859).

If there's no evidence, these "fraud" sciences should be easy to expose. Yet all you ever do is accuse without a shred of evidence of your own to back up your accusations.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Darwin never said anything near what modern day atheistic scientists are claiming he said...

Darwin presented his observations, threw out a theory, and that was it.

Darwin was in no way an atheist...
So are you anti-evolution or just anti-abiogenesis? It helps to be precise about these things.
 
I am pro science, which takes no position beyond the scope of science...

The atheists with their atheistic agenda don't argue from scientific fact, they argue from their atheistic religion and their agenda. They believe there is no God, so they fit whatever facts to meet that agenda.

This is not science...

Nowhere did Darwin say that what he observed was atheistic...

Quote from kut2k2:

So are you anti-evolution or just anti-abiogenesis? It helps to be precise about these things.
 
"creation science" ...



LOL



you know what I've found ... the "smartest" people say the most idiotic things



further, it's a rare event when someone references thermodynamics when explaining their faith


(believe it or not, I did take advanced thermodynamics as an undergrad, I had A's going, until I lost interest)
 
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