Why cant Romney put in the same effort as Perot articulating his plan/ideas?

noob_trad3r · Sep 17, 2012

Good news, Romney announces he will provide specifics.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57514206-503544/romney-camp-promises-more-specifics/

Brass · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from jem:

Romney is not putting out his plan... because he knows that after tax cuts revenues have gone up.

As keynes actually stated... he plans to grow us out of the debt... but if he says it, it will give the media the ammo it needs to guy him... because the media has been lying about tax cuts and gdp for 30 years.

reagan cut taxes... revenues went up... bush cut taxes revenues went up.
kennedy cut taxes revenues went up.

keynes stated in a recession you cut taxes and grow your way out.

Now why does the left pretend otherwise?

Jem, perhaps you should collaborate with "Sam Bacile" to produce Dawn of the Brain Dead.

CaptainObvious · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from Brass:

Your "breathing" includes defending the very conduct that elicits the outrage of unthinking people who would otherwise not necessarily be incited by the thugs who wish to do you harm. You defend the idiots who keep giving oxygen to those who wish you dead.

I defend the right of freedom of expression by individuals. Entire populations and governments cannot be held accountable for the opinion of the individual. That's how it works, that being freedom. If I have to listen to their non-sense, they have to listen to mine. Scream and holler all they like. No problem. Burn flags. Whatever. Piss on the bible. Couldn't care less. Physically attack me or mine. You die!

Brass · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I defend the right of freedom of expression by individuals...

A noble gesture, to be sure. And one that should be encouraged provided that everyone plays responsibly and by the same rules. But their boys across the pond play by an entirely different set of rules that keep getting your boys killed. There is freedom and then there is discretion and the intelligent employ of that freedom. And, of course, there is that definition of insanity of which I reminded you earlier.

BSAM · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from noob_trad3r:

He ran as an Independent and I voted for him over Clinton/Bush. And he actually got on the Debates. He provided a valid alternative.

Sad that he did not win, I think we would have been better off today.

I voted for him too.
I'm not one of the weak-in-the-knees FOX News Zombie "conservative" blowhards you see here on ET spewing their bravado nonstop.
I'm a true conservative/libertarian.
I won't cast my vote for any horseshit like Obama or Romney.

BSAM · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from Ricter:

If the US government ceased all spending today, with the exception of making the interest payments on its debt, it would be taking in somewhere between five and six times as much in tax revenue as it would be paying out. (Some consideration would have to be made for GDP shrinkage, of course, unless you believe GDP would grow, which makes the case even better.) We are solvent, we are not becoming Greece.

Exsqueeze me, brother Ricci.
Is that first word in your post "If"?

CaptainObvious · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from Brass:

A noble gesture, to be sure. And one that should be encouraged provided that everyone plays responsibly and by the same rules. But their boys across the pond play by an entirely different set of rules that keep getting your boys killed. There is freedom and then there is discretion and the intelligent employ of that freedom. And, of course, there is that definition of insanity of which I reminded you earlier.

Yes, but you're not addressing the fact that this is the vocal action of one guy being met by the violent actions of tens of thousands. If we surpress the voice of one just to appease those that look for any reason to justify their violence, we all lose our freedom. Frankly, they have better reasons to hate us.

Brass · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Yes, but you're not addressing the fact that this is the vocal action of one guy being met by the violent actions of tens of thousands. If we surpress the voice of one just to appease those that look for any reason to justify their violence, we all lose our freedom. Frankly, they have better reasons to hate us.

You'd think that something as precious as freedom would be used a bit more intelligently and thoughtfully in a dangerous, unpredictable and interconnected world. That its value wouldn't be so offhandedly diminished. Isn't it unfortunate that this freedom includes the freedom to disregard the very real consequences of the thoughtless exercise of that freedom?

hughb · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from BSAM:

Brother Check, I don't see Perot as a failure.
Remember, he ran a third party and made a huge impact.
A sign, then, of things to come.
It's the only hope for our political situation.
Perot was a pioneer.

There was nothing to rebut the media's portryal of Perot as a nutjob back then. If there had been an internet to allow a more even handed debate and freer flow of information, Perot could have possibly won, he definitely would have gotten more votes.

Lucrum · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from jem:

Romney is not putting out his plan... because he knows that after tax cuts revenues have gone up.
As keynes actually stated... he plans to grow us out of the debt... but if he says it, it will give the media the ammo it needs to guy him... because the media has been lying about tax cuts and gdp for 30 years.
reagan cut taxes... revenues went up... bush cut taxes revenues went up.
kennedy cut taxes revenues went up.
keynes stated in a recession you cut taxes and grow your way out.

Now why does the left pretend otherwise?

They're obsessed with their agenda of class warfare and taxing the "rich" to promote it.