Why Can't I Trade with the Trend

In my opinion countertrend trading is an advanced art. Beginners should trade only with the trend and a strong one at that. Trading with the trend is much more forgiving of bad entries. This will also teach you the fine art of sitting on your hands.

edit: Obviously these are not my ideas, but things taught to me that I am passing on as I found them to be true.
 
Quote from WilliamV:

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I've come away with the following preliminary conclusions: Need to give more weight to volume in determining trend strength or it's reversal and not using it alone but with other factors. Time is also extremely important. Adaptive MA's could help point the way.

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Yeah,
Try putting some of your money on it. Don't forget to write us a postcard on how you're doing.
 
I am reading every single post in this thread and I never hear
a single word of ACF function, correlation of time series;a random series coud have trend form too, so?
The only thing is to use statistic tests, the rest are only an art
very expensive!!!
my opinion of course.............
 
Quote from nononsense:

Yeah,
Try putting some of your money on it. Don't forget to write us a postcard on how you're doing.
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That's the plan. Will you settle for more posts?
 
Quote from jerry11901:

Flashboy
-your threads are most interesting, you are the star on ET…:)
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If this is a serious compliment .. Thank you..

Hydroblunt has it right though.. but maybe that'll change in time..
 
the reason 99.99% of traders can not win or trade with the trend,
counter trend trade , or trade break outs, false breakouts, etc.

what if i told you the truth? could you handle it? there is always some armature trader pretending to be a successful pro that will
try and argue with me. saying they know better. the fact is they
are getting there knowledge of the market the same place you are
the web. so how can they say with confidence they know anything at all.

heres what the market reality is take or leave it.

1. the market is manipulated on a daily basis! it is designed to
trap with trend traders, break out traders, fibs trader, gann traders
harmonic traders, pivot traders, price action traders, trend line traders, moving averages, and indicator systems traders, swing traders, scalpers, even stop hunting traders.

why is past history show correct analysis if this is true?

2. 99.99% of traders do not back test with the reality of the right side charts in mind ( when back testing)

3. all of the above methods work but at a low percentage.

4. learning how traders get trapped and learning the tricks is a daunting task, but it is the only way to succeed. it takes years.


5. finally i have to say their is no other way!!! period!!!
 
Quote from Flashboy:

Every trend day or period like the last 3 days I always have trouble trading with the trend.

I'm always looking for that turning point so I can hop on for the big score..

I most likely need to work on my plan for trading with the trend.. and force myself to do it until I become more comfortable..

Anyone else have this problem?
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Trend is just an optical illusion. Once you realize that, you will see the whole mkt in a unified view.
After all, a cockroach climbing a stone laid on a downhill slope, will think to be riding a trend ;-))

Tom
 
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