Oh please... you have NO IDEA how easy or hard some had it before you were born. Stop clinging to your delusional defense mechanisms. Despite the recession, in some ways YOU have it easier now than the baby boomers you disdain did when they were your age, so drop the victim's mentality and take advantage of today's opportunities that seem to keep passing you by.
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Why can't I get a job? Recent Grad, 3.7 GPA, Good Exp, Year and a half of searching..
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The "high demand for engineers" is bullshit spouted by upper management of major companies who want to increase the supply of labor in order to decrease wages. Electrical and mechanical engineers are some of the easiest professions to outsource.Quote from nelsanity:
I know this is of little help to you now, but is more for the 18-19 and under crowd. If you want a job that pays well, go to school and study engineering. Jobs pay well, they are going to be in demand for years to come, and banks/hedge funds love them.
Someone just left my group and we're hiring but would be weird to grab someone from a forum.
The only engineering fields that are truly in demand are civil (water structures, clean water, etc.) and environmental. Even biomedical can be sent to India.
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The "high demand for engineers" is bullshit spouted by upper management of major companies who want to increase the supply of labor in order to decrease wages. Electrical and mechanical engineers are some of the easiest professions to outsource.
The only engineering fields that are truly in demand are civil (water structures, clean water, etc.) and environmental. Even biomedical can be sent to India.
EEs MechEs and Indust. Es have the best starting salaries of engineers. CivEs are notoriously at the bottom (45-50). Also, CivE suffers from a feast or famine job market. Say what you want but there is a shortage of engineers and that is why it's such a great choice. And they are often held in higher regard than other majors. Best choice education-wise is to get Eng degree with lots of electives in programming.
the specific degree isn't so important
What matters is signaling that you're smart. That's why if you take enough math you'll be ok if you went to a good school. There aren't many numerate socially well adjusted people in the states.
What matters is signaling that you're smart. That's why if you take enough math you'll be ok if you went to a good school. There aren't many numerate socially well adjusted people in the states.
Like I said, a great idea would be to start a tv show where all people actually start from the same level. Then weâll actually see who are really the successful ones. How in the world can you compare people who could pay for college by working in the Summer to those whoâs in state colleges can cost more than 20k a year nowadays? How many times have I asked around here for 10 people under 30 who actually own their own home and put 10% down on it? Iâm still waiting.Quote from Trader666:
Great point. Why listen to people who have been successful and have supported themselves longer than you've been on earth when they can listen to someone like you, who has not been successful and still lives with his parents?
A BA in Economics at any tier 1 school, which Stony Brook is, will include the math courses you mentioned as part of their curriculum. There's even more math/econometrics courses if you choose the quant option.Quote from wutangfinancial:
the specific degree isn't so important
What matters is signaling that you're smart. That's why if you take enough math you'll be ok if you went to a good school. There aren't many numerate socially well adjusted people in the states.
It may confuse some hiring managers because they look at the degree and see "bachelor of arts". However, a BA in Economics typically requires much more advanced math than a BS in Finance.
I donât disdain baby boomers, I just think itâs quite ironic that they go around telling kids these days how lazy they are meanwhile they had cheap college, cheap housing, cheap medical care, less job competition, a booming stock market, all while managinng to rack up an 11 trillion dollar debt that they are passing onto us kids. Not to mention the 50 trillion dollar tidal wave heading our way. Just sayinâQuote from Trader666:
Oh please... you have NO IDEA how easy or hard some had it before you were born. Stop clinging to your delusional defense mechanisms. Despite the recession, in some ways YOU have it easier now than the baby boomers you disdain did when they were your age, so drop the victim's mentality and take advantage of today's opportunities that seem to keep passing you by.
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A BA in Economics at any tier 1 school, which Stony Brook is, will include the math courses you mentioned as part of their curriculum. There's even more math/econometrics courses if you choose the quant option.
It may confuse some hiring managers because they look at the degree and see "bachelor of arts". However, a BA in Economics typically requires much more advanced math than a BS in Finance.
I looked it up out of curiosity. You're wrong.
http://www.sunysb.edu/economics/undergrad/requirements/
A minimum of 11 courses, at least 9 of them in Economics, distributed as follows:
ECO 108.
ECO 303 Intermediate Microeconomic Theory and ECO 305 Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory. A grade of C or better is required in both courses. (Note that MAT 122 with a grade of C or better is a prerequisite for both courses).
Six additional courses in Economics at the 300 level and above. Each of these must be taken for a minimum of three credits and must be passed with a grade of C or better.
Two additional courses, either in economics or from a list of pre-approved electives in other departments, each with a minimum of three credits and a grade of C or better.
No more than two 400 level courses will count toward fulfillment of major requirements.
One semester of calculus (MAT 122 or higher or AMS 151 or a score of level 4 or higher on the Mathematics Placement Examination)
Upper-Division Writing Requirement:
You need high school AP calc. That's it. It's not a tier one program.
Economics can either be one of the easiest or one of the hardest majors. In this case it's one of the easiest.
If you're not regularly using multivariable calc yer not doing real econ. When you do, say, international trade and finance you're probably learning about what an exchange rate is at a place SUNY. Do it at Princeton and it will make your eyes bleed with all the mathematical models.
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A BA in Economics at any tier 1 school, which Stony Brook is, will include the math courses you mentioned as part of their curriculum. There's even more math/econometrics courses if you choose the quant option.
It may confuse some hiring managers because they look at the degree and see "bachelor of arts". However, a BA in Economics typically requires much more advanced math than a BS in Finance.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Differential equations in a mathematical modeling for economics class was required for my BS, as well as 1 class further than Basic Econometrics with Empirical Analysis. BA's couldn't have a hope of hanging mathematically or quantitatively with a BS, especially finance or Financial Economics.
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The "high demand for engineers" is bullshit spouted by upper management of major companies who want to increase the supply of labor in order to decrease wages. Electrical and mechanical engineers are some of the easiest professions to outsource.
The only engineering fields that are truly in demand are civil (water structures, clean water, etc.) and environmental. Even biomedical can be sent to India.
Yup. I graduated in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 2002, nearly the top of my class. Been applying ever since. Rarely do I even get replies to my applications, nevermind actual employment opportunities. They've taken all these jobs and shipped them to India/China, and what hasn't been shipped there, has been given to H1-B's and foreigners. Engineering definitely isn't a way to avoid the unemployment line. Going into EE ruined my life. There is no demand for EE's, especially not the bright ones who would ordinarily be working in R&D, bu who now, if they can even find employment, usually have to settle for jobs that can be done by technicians.