I live in the Bay area with huge Asian population and I know from personal experience that many Chinese, Vietnamese speak very poor English or none at all, but you'll find that Asians are one of the most successful groups in America, because of 1) family unit 2) they know how to manage money.
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I live in the Bay area with huge Asian population and I know from personal experience that many Chinese, Vietnamese speak very poor English or none at all, but you'll find that Asians are one of the most successful groups in America, because of 1) family unit 2) they know how to manage money.
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Yes Marin is a Caucasian stronghold though there has been some notable people of color living here eg "In 1988, Shakur and his family moved toMarin City, California, a suburban community located 5 miles (8 km) north ofSan Francisco, across the bay.[26]He attendedTamalpais High Schoolin nearbyMill Valley.[33]"
I live in the Bay area with huge Asian population and I know from personal experience that many Chinese, Vietnamese speak very poor English or none at all, but you'll find that Asians are one of the most successful groups in America, because of 1) family unit 2) they know how to manage money.
Well you just made my case for me basically, and i agree, most Asian (Oriental) immigrants tend to integrate very succesfully because they dont come with the dogma of a religion that despises american values. They also tend to be entreprenurial, Most also come here with more than just the clothes on their back, not much but enough to open up a restaraunt, or a dry cleaning business or do something else. Also like you said, very big on family and education, ive already stated over and over we should accept those kinds of immigrants.
But thats not what we are getting for the most part from people running across the border with no papers, you are conflating legtitimate immigrants with illegal immigrants.
Im asking why should we be taking in ILLEGAL immigrants, or refugees who are illiterate, who come here with nothing, no prospects, and a religion that despises american values. Can you answer why we should take those people in when people in our country are suffering?
Well you just made my case for me basically, and i agree, most Asian (Oriental) immigrants tend to integrate very succesfully because they dont come with the dogma of a religion that despises american values. They also tend to be entreprenurial, Most also come here with more than just the clothes on their back, not much but enough to open up a restaraunt, or a dry cleaning business or do something else. Also like you said, very big on family and education, ive already stated over and over we should accept those kinds of immigrants.
But thats not what we are getting for the most part from people running across the border with no papers, you are conflating legtitimate immigrants with illegal immigrants.
Im asking why should we be taking in ILLEGAL immigrants, or refugees who are illiterate, who come here with nothing, no prospects, and a religion that despises american values. Can you answer why we should take those people in when people in our country are suffering?
You missed the point completely....You had mentioned lack of language as one of your earlier post points.
lol, A suburban community? do you even live in Marin Co? My nephews go to Tam High, I know it well.
Yes, it is a suburban community. Mountain bike was invented in Marin ( Mt. Tam ) to be exact.
PS Bay area is a lot more than Marin County, from Shiloh Road in Santa Rosa to Capitol Expressway in San Jose.
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You missed the point completely....You had mentioned lack of language as one of your earlier post points.
And your completely missing all my points, language in itself isnt a 100 percent route to failure, we already estahlished that most of these asian immigrants are very family oriented, most have family networks established here, many are already in school or have went to school, most come with some sort of savings, just as not having money isnt a 100 percent route to failure, neither is language, but the people we are accepting should have atleast some of these things, if not all of them, obviously its not 100 percent but what im saying is that if a person comes here, without money without a degree, is completely illiterate, doesnt come here legally, etc.... etc..... at some point there has to be a level at which you say no sorry your prospects of making it are just far too low, statistically you are going to be a huge drain on the system. You have to be realistic about it.
Like i said the refugees/illegals coming here have absolutely nothing that would dictate they will be able to make it, they have no money no support network (people who can vouch or take care of them, already living here successfully), no plans of going to school, and have no way of ever paying any taxes we know they dont have these things because if they did, they would have went THE LEGAL ROUTE.
I cant speak for all conservatives/republicans/libertarians, but im pretty sure the vast majority are not against all immigration, we are about having some sort of standard, and not allowing the crap happening in europe to happen to us. We are about doing what is best for the people who are suffering HERE before we try to help people who will come here at an opportunity cost to the people who are already suffering HERE.
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I think you should turn off your robot response.Yes, it is a suburban community. Mountain bike was invented in Marin ( Mt. Tam ) to be exact.
PS Bay area is a lot more than Marin County, from Shiloh Road in Santa Rosa to Capitol Expressway in San Jose.
I think you should turn off your robot response.
Dude, get a life!