Quote from MarketMasher:
So...how does signing your name in triplicate equate to understanding the math to figure out what happens when your ARM resets?![]()
What about the clown who pulls the contract out of his briefcase to hand over for signature?
Quote from jd7419:
How the hell would you ever go through a closing if you don't understand the terms of your loan? It's only the most important financial purchase of your life. I can't believe people won't read a contract yet want to buy a home. Have you ever bought a house? The contract the clown bank produces at closing takes a little more than a few minutes to sign. Just sat through one in April and it took about 2 hours from start to finish.
Quote from Mecro:
This is a naive outlook.
1) The 700 billion IS NOT FOR THE MORTGAGES. It's for the worthless paper
2) Why were banks pushing mortgages so much? Because they were leveraging them to sell crap paper and collect profits/bonuses/commissions. You really think they did not know that they should not be lending this much? Do you really think they would lend like that if the option of selling these worthless derivatives 10 times over the initial mortgage was not available? This is nothing new, the same game, just a new edition. Ties in into the monetary system that rules the world and is ruled by .....
3) Mortgage brokers would do ANYTHING and say ANYTHING to get a consumer to take a mortgage. If you don't think they were lying & convincing people to finance & re-finance against their best judgement, you are wrong. Standard sociopath salesman personality, these people are what they are.
4) The people who took upon them mortgages that they could not and would not pay off should face responsibility and ARE facing responsibility. The bailout does almost nothing for them, and in fact, penalizes them along with the rest via accellerated inflation, on top of other geopolitical issues from this bill.
5) Blaming the consumer is idiotic. They had nothing to do with the banks writing out worthless paper and selling it to pension funds (foreign & domestic). They are getting theirs via foreclosures & dropping RE prices. Meanwhile the banks are crying for taxpayer money.
Quote from flytiger:
I'm sick and tired of Guy A'Dami, and his other lackies saying that Joe Consumer knew what he was doing, and should be punished.
1. Although some consumers did try to jive the system, they had to have the help of mortgage brokers. They just pinched one down here, and her 'customer' for scamming millions.
2. As a former licensed professional, when all else fails, it is the responsibliity of the license holder to do the right thing. He/she is trained and schooled for a reason. Why else would states make you take continuing ed?
3. Firms like Countrywide, and the brokers that bought and packaged, are also culprits, being licensed 'professionals', albeit Ashley DuPree type professionals, who we all knew were doing what they were doing.
As Crames said, in a video.......'we did this stuff when I was at Goldman. Someone would ask, 'what happens if this blows up?' And someone else would say.....'who cares!!!????? Look what they are paying us to sell it!"
What's next? When I was at a big firm, I had a lawyer call me to buy me lunch. What he wanted was "sales material>" That's what they are looking for now.
You are going to see SEC/DOJ action upon action, followed by Class Action lawyers. That simple.
Quote from Cutten:
No one is forced to take on a mortgage. If you sign an agreement to repay, and fail, then you are responsible for your actions and their consequences unless you were somehow coerced, defrauded, or tricked into signing an illegitimate contract.
Some people probably were bamboozled into bad contracts, and they should be released and the sellers jailed for fraud. But most people knew what they were signing and were just too damn greedy to cover the downside - result being they stiffed their lenders, caused bankruptcies, recession, soaring unemployment and the destruction of stock and bond savings.