Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

Murray has something against Veterans of the United States of America. People like you want Americans to defend their country but if injured from war...our soldiers must pay their own medical bills while the bureaucrats become richer and more powerful. :(

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  • The United States already employs several forms of socialized medicine. The Veteran's Administration healthcare system is one example, and in many ways, it is an example of fully socialized medicine...as in universal healthcare. Veterans can take advantage of the health care offered by the system.
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Never bring politics into healthcare issues. It has deadly consequences as proven in 2020 during the Covid Pandemic when politics called it a democratic hoax, not real, it will be gone tomorrow and then Politics used misinformation / disinformation to downplay the threat of Covid.

How's that type of bullshit working out for the United States ???

In a given year...there are 160,000 homeless veterans. Take away their VA benefits...you will have 160,000 highly trained individuals resorting to crime. Yeah Murray, good plan you have...glad you're not making the rules about socialized healthcare.

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Turveyd said:
Covid isn't a Heart Virus, it's Lungs, Lungs and Heart are different Organs, therefore unless he has a Lung issue, the Virus will have zero effect on him.

Exactly like a Bad Flu virus that attacks your lungs odd that.
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You are truly a genius. I'm hoping you are just one of the many that is shooting for reactions on here as you really seem to be a clueless follower of misinformation. Young people have had heart issues with the vaccines. A very small sample in comparison to the shots given, but since this little guy has a known heart issue it presents a problem for the cardiologist in terms of recommending the vaccination or not. Also the stress of the virus itself if he were to get it could very easily impact his heart.
Destriero, I'm not sure if your comment is directed at me, but if it is not sure what I stated to set you off.
 
tango29 said:
...Young people have had heart issues with the vaccines. A very small sample in comparison to the shots given, but since this little guy has a known heart issue it presents a problem for the cardiologist in terms of recommending the vaccination or not...
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It's called Myocarditis and Pericarditis...inflammation of the heart and a small percentage of young people have had those heart problems although it cleared up on their own for most without medication.
  • I had Myocarditis as a kid plus a heart murmur...I was a tall kid for my size and competing / training heavily in sports. My heart was having problems keeping up with my growth and training routine...resulted in my heart developing inflammation along with joint pain in my knees.
About a thousand people have developed Myocarditis or Pericarditis out of the current 188 million vaccinations (1st dose).

Just in case the misinformation by @Turveyd was aimed at Covid and not at the Vaccines of Covid...

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A growing number of studies suggest many COVID-19 survivors experience some type of heart damage, even if they didn't have underlying heart disease and weren't sick enough to be hospitalized. This latest twist has health care experts worried about a potential increase in heart failure...

Nearly one-fourth of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have been diagnosed with cardiovascular complications, which have been shown to contribute to roughly 40% of all COVID-19-related deaths. But two recent studies suggest heart damage among those infected may be more widespread.
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I know two people here in Québec and a few in the United States...all friends. Some had mild Covid infection (no hospitalization) and the others were hospitalized.

About 1/2 of them now have heart problems that they didn't have prior to being infected with Covid.

By the way, Turveyd is the guy along with a few other Covid-Deniers that have stated multiple times at this forum about Covid...they're usually been right about Covid and that people should listen to them. :rolleyes:

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murray t turtle said:
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And then there is so many big tech in USA only allowing one side/what's the hide??
And then the killer pattern= free socialized med, free trainride, free gas showers/ free burial==============================================. Like Sara palin said ''death panels''
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Free Lap Dancers and other things and prize draws to encourage a Jab, that doesn't actually seem to do anything, not suspicious at all.
 
tango29 said:
You are truly a genius. I'm hoping you are just one of the many that is shooting for reactions on here as you really seem to be a clueless follower of misinformation. Young people have had heart issues with the vaccines. A very small sample in comparison to the shots given, but since this little guy has a known heart issue it presents a problem for the cardiologist in terms of recommending the vaccination or not. Also the stress of the virus itself if he were to get it could very easily impact his heart.
Destriero, I'm not sure if your comment is directed at me, but if it is not sure what I stated to set you off.
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Lungs not heart, so no it won't affect his heart.

Pretty sure your the 1 following miss information, fearmongering so high, you've all taken barely tested new tech experimental jab's, where the animals all die in trials, sounds great, for a virus under 70 years old, where Flu is more likely to kill you, over 70 Covid has the advantage but not by a lot.

But Logic and Reason are killed off to support the narrative and bring communism/police state to all.

Bye Bye Freedoms!!
 
How COVID-19 can damage the brain

Some people who become ill with the coronavirus develop neurological symptoms. Scientists are struggling to understand why.
Cardiovascular problems, heart problems, and neurological problems from some that have been infected with Covid. Oddly, some of the biggest Covid-Deniers at this forum have also admitted once that they had it but it was not big deal even though often they've stated it was a hoax.

Anyone I know died from Covid...NO. I know someone that died from Covid - Which is it ?

It's a hoax...I had Covid - Which is it ?

I call this the ramblings of a crazy madman that possibly has ongoing neurological problems from their Covid infection.

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Turveyd said:
Lungs not heart, so no it won't affect his heart.
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I get the impression you are not just trying to rile people up, but are really not all that bright. The kid has a genetic heart issue that even if it were just lungs, the stress of a "lung issue" would put stress on his heart function which is at risk to begin with.
His family has a decision to make, and his doctor, a guy who I understand is very good in his field is being honest with them in terms of the options on the table. He is also taking the time to get consults from other experts I am told.
I don't bother with the ignore function, as I actually get a kick out of some of the crap posted in various places over the years and would hate to miss any of it. It usually gives my humor break in the day.
 
According to statistisc 0.2% of people that got Covid-19 died in the period before we started to vaccinate.
Vaccination should reduce that number. So the death rate of vaccinated people should be lower than 0.2% to proof that vaccination is better than non vaccination.
Till today 3.9 billion vaccines where give to people all around the world.

So now I have a simple question: are there 0.2% of vaccinated people who died from the vaccine? I speak about 7.8 millions deaths.

If the number is lower, vaccinating is a remedy for the disease.


We don't know what the future will bring for vaccinated people?
Well, we have the same remark for anti vaxxers.
In both cases we don't know the longterm effects. But at first sight non vaccinated that die are at this moment a multiple of the vaccinated ones.
 
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I have been working in a hospital for 15 years and still have contact with friends overthere.
Since the vaccinations started, the Intensive Care Department had less and less new patients. But last week they had 18 new patients on Intensive Care with life threatening symptoms. They were ALL NON VACCINATED. That's the reality.
These patienst are a mixture, all ages and male as well as female victims.
 
tango29 said:
I get the impression you are not just trying to rile people up, but are really not all that bright. The kid has a genetic heart issue that even if it were just lungs, the stress of a "lung issue" would put stress on his heart function which is at risk to begin with.
His family has a decision to make, and his doctor, a guy who I understand is very good in his field is being honest with them in terms of the options on the table. He is also taking the time to get consults from other experts I am told.
I don't bother with the ignore function, as I actually get a kick out of some of the crap posted in various places over the years and would hate to miss any of it. It usually gives my humor break in the day.
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LOL Doctors are shit and going along with the fear mongering, to protect there jobs or there just stupid ??

Girl I see, told 100% if you get Covid you'll die loads of health conditions, tested PCR positive twice before going for a procedure, had zero symptoms and she was supposed to be 100% dead.

Nobody is dying from heart conditions and Covid, below 70.

Go believe all your leftie PC Scaremongering, screw the world up, start WW3 ( Notice Russia+China Cold war is back with the USA, Ukraine?, Taiwan? ), it's a distraction and a hoax nothing more.

Russia threatened an unstoppable preemptive attack on the USA only 2 days ago, China threatened to Nuke Japan, is the USA gets involved with Taiwan.

There are worse things happening than damn covid!!
 
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