Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

[misterkel]

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/28/iceland-vaccines-do-not-work/

Appartently, they're 'successful' because they cause 'less severe symptoms'.
But isn't the idea behind vaxes to create immunity?
People are taking this experimental cocktail with a mess of negative outcomes and the highest death rates in history of any vaccine when they could simply take tylenol, zinc and Ivermectin IF they get symptomatic Covid, which only a tiny percentage of people do.

 

[zghorner]

Hmm - I wonder if ... nah. That's impossible they could be misdiagnosing all those flu cases as Covid cases. Because... reasons.

Nah no way. If that were true then they could possibly be exaggerating the covid death #s as well…no way our medical community would do that even though hospitals get extra money if someone dies of covid…

 

[Turveyd]

You caught the CDC news release, Flu tests positive via a PCR test for covid lol. So all the flu deaths just got labelled Covid.

9days of this cold feeling worse and worse, wish it was covid 20xs worse!

 

[Turveyd]

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/28/iceland-vaccines-do-not-work/

Appartently, they're 'successful' because they cause 'less severe symptoms'.
But isn't the idea behind vaxes to create immunity?
People are taking this experimental cocktail with a mess of negative outcomes and the highest death rates in history of any vaccine when they could simply take tylenol, zinc and Ivermectin IF they get symptomatic Covid, which only a tiny percentage of people do.

1 person in the world self medicated got a little bit ill and there trying to ban the treatment's like they did last year, to keep the deaths up and FEAR!

Can't make this shit up! Lefties will buy into ofcourse something wrong in there heads

 

[virtusa]

The New England Journal of Medecine.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475

The study was based on the electronic health records of some 2 million people (over 16 years of age) in Israel. A group was assembled of 880,000 individuals, all vaccinated with Pfizer for at least 42 days. The control group consisted of an equal number of people with the same medical and demographic background. The only difference: the control group was not vaccinated.
And although the risk of mild heart complaints remains very small after a vaccination with Pfizer, a link has been shown. In the group studied, there were 2.7 cases of 100,000 vaccinated people who had to deal with the specific heart complaints.
However, the risk appears to be even greater if people were infected with the coronavirus (11 cases in 100,000 infections): crucial information that puts the (news) reports about heart complaints after an (mRNA) vaccination into context.

"If people are hesitant to get vaccinated because they fear a rare and mild inflammation of the heart muscle, this study shows that the risk of that same side effect is just higher if you are not vaccinated and become infected," emphasizes co-author Ben Reis, researcher at Boston Children's Hospital.

 

[virtusa]

But isn't the idea behind vaxes to create immunity?

No, but you are too stupid, or biased to understand that.

 

[cesfx]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796

 

[misterkel]

No, but you are too stupid, or biased to understand that.

Good, good. Keep up the name-calling. Continue to forgo evidence, logic and clear debate. Provide no counterarguments, only ad hominem attacks. It's really convincing a lot of people. Especially those who enjoy believing statements based on gross and multiple rhetorical fallacies. Well done! A++.

I'd be interested in your opinion on this study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf+html .
Here's the table of outcomes, showing that natural immunity works much better than vaxxed immunity. I mean, if you're stupid enough to believe that vaccination - also called Immunization - is for the purpose of creating immunity. I guess the similarity in the words Immunization and Immunity is mere coincidence? Please correct me with appropriate verbal abuse as befits my lowly station and stupidness.

 

[misterkel]

The New England Journal of Medecine.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475

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The study was based on the electronic health records of some 2 million people (over 16 years of age) in Israel. A group was assembled of 880,000 individuals, all vaccinated with Pfizer for at least 42 days. The control group consisted of an equal number of people with the same medical and demographic background. The only difference: the control group was not vaccinated.
And although the risk of mild heart complaints remains very small after a vaccination with Pfizer, a link has been shown. In the group studied, there were 2.7 cases of 100,000 vaccinated people who had to deal with the specific heart complaints.
However, the risk appears to be even greater if people were infected with the coronavirus (11 cases in 100,000 infections): crucial information that puts the (news) reports about heart complaints after an (mRNA) vaccination into context.

"If people are hesitant to get vaccinated because they fear a rare and mild inflammation of the heart muscle, this study shows that the risk of that same side effect is just higher if you are not vaccinated and become infected," emphasizes co-author Ben Reis, researcher at Boston Children's Hospital.

Then run and get vaxxed, get double-vaxxed. Get your top-ups. Get your 6 month boosters for the rest of your life. Enjoy.
Just leave me the fuck alone.

 

[wrbtrader]

The costs (I'm not talking about only financial) of Vaccination near Herd Immunity is much less than the costs associated with Natural Herd Immunity.

Travel is a key variable of both and economies are dependent upon travel. This variable can not be removed and if removed...countries will then have the opportunity to surround their most at-risk population with individuals that have Natural Herd Immunity.

• Unfortunately, the country will be unable to survive after years of trying to reach Natural Herd Immunity. Many countries are just not suitable for such and there lies the problem of Natural Herd Immunity.

Vaccine Immunity is much easier to reach if at all than Natural Herd Immunity without killing off or injuring most of the population because there's another key variable...Human nature.

Humans just can not come to an agreement on a global public health policy about Natural Herd Immunity. Sweden tried it and it was a disaster because of those costs. They eventually admitted in the fall of 2020 that it failed and they then tried something much different...

They closed their borders to the critical migrant workers, trade, and travel that their economy is dependent upon...used strict restrictions / measures, educated their population about the importance of face mask wear and they begin vaccinating their population.

Maybe had they stuck with the Natural Herd Immunity policy for many more years...they just could not afford to keep out the critical migrant workers, trade and travel from other countries that are not using Natural Herd Immunity.

This is the reason why Natural Herd Immunity must be a global public health policy and our human nature will never be able to co-operate for such to occur.

wrbtrader