Who is Woodie???
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700 users eh? sounds i should be fading this...
nothing personal, purely business..
nothing personal, purely business..
You make a good point, I have to admit after thinking about it recently, I realized just about everything I do for "other people" is really in some way, shape or form for myself.
I guess we all have needs inside of us to fulfill that we are not consciously aware of, we do things for other people that we don't really want to do, but because we either want someone's approval or we want to be viewed as a "nice person" we do it.
Have you ever thought about how you want to be viewed in other people's eyes? What you do and how you respond to keep up the illusion?
Ok, sorry I guess I am off topic, it's just that I want you folk's to view me as ........ oh, never mind.
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Bruce
How is this repudiating what he said?
There are several thousand screaming fans at a baseball game when an umpire makes a call. Have you noticed how they always cry when it is the home team that gets robbed?
Numbers mean nothing for more than one reason. People sitting on the fence/stands are mostly clueless. The people on the field are the ones that get paid to play.
I have no idea what is up with this guy. Saying that the only group it benefits is the MAWF is making a big assumption. Here is one way this guy could benefit. He makes a call, "500" people follow him in. He buys/sells to them for a handle. Do the math. I know people that would throw a Billion dollars at something that guaranteed them 2 handles a day on the ES consistently.
Making a living from the CCI? LMAO. Do you make a living from trading the CCI? Post your brokerage statement. It sure is ALOT easier than confronting every single ET handle that contradicts this stuff. Save yourself some time.
Funny, with all due respect, I have nothing to do with "woodie" or "Franklin" and Franklin does not sound disgruntled to me?
Probably like most people that are looking for a magic bullet, he had a moment of weakness, went into the room, listened and followed patiently, and came away with, NOTHING.
nitro
I have been in this business for over twenty years now. WITHOUT EXCEPTION, the people that can trade, trade, and those that cannot, start chatrooms, write books, sell audio tapes, you name it.
There is only one way in this world that a person should allow another person to invade their knowledge space - they should be qualified to do so. In every field but trading, most professionals have to be certified. There is only _ONE_WAY_ to get certification in trading, post your tax returns for the last three years, I should say, post what you made from trading, not from the chatrooms you run, the books you sell, etc. Just da trades.
nitro
Wow,
This is a long post, but what the heck, you irritate me so I will answer you:
BTW, the odds of fiding 5 profitable traders out of 500 if they traded randomly is more than 50%. It means nothing. _BUT_, hey, produce one - that has to be easier than posting repeatedly on a message board answering each and everyone of your detractors, no?
I don't see noone stinkin apologizing?
nitro
This is a long post, but what the heck, you irritate me so I will answer you:
This is the only thing that matters. You should be able, without much trouble, be able to produce just _ONE_ trader that would be willing to post two years of trading statements.
BTW, the odds of fiding 5 profitable traders out of 500 if they traded randomly is more than 50%. It means nothing. _BUT_, hey, produce one - that has to be easier than posting repeatedly on a message board answering each and everyone of your detractors, no?
Are you in the business of trading or helping people for $7. Twilite Zone man. :eek:
Why did you come to ET? If you are happy with woodies room, why come to ET? Why not go to the Womans Religious Right room? WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAIT, it is because this is a forum where traders meet. So lemme add this up. He has chatroom, we have 20000 members, hmmmmm...lemmmme think about this.....still thinking about it.....smoke is coming out of my head now.....I wonder if I can apply CCI to this situation?
Whose apologizing? Let me put my glasses on
I don't see noone stinkin apologizing? Hmmm, amazing, everytime one of these chatrooms people come in here, they are always taking EliteTrader trader's money. I tell you, of the 20000 or so chatroom traders that have come in here so far, we ET traders must be the people on the other side of all these geniuses.
Watch out ET traders!! We better watch that CCI or we are going to give all these guys in "woodies" room our hard earned money!
nitro
OK my last opinion - although nobody cares I give it all the same
- I said in my very first post in answer to TGreg, I don't know why, he censored the answer, I said it was free, that someone who can't afford the 25$ / month of Hotcomm can't surely trade either so the price is not really a problem. So it was a positive support for Woodie.
- then I discovered the "cult" aspect. I think that it doesn't come from the whole members but from the few "guardians" of Woodies: it suffices that they baffle other members and refer to "what Woodie says is gold" or "what would Woodie do" to create this atmosphere of cult that will be accepted by all members . My question, that I cannot answer, is : "is it orchestrated or not" ? if it is for what ? probably for marketing promotioning of sponsors if not in the present maybe in the future. Many sites do that. Personnaly I don't like to lie: my site is not intended to be free I said it on the very first second. I don't want sponsors either. But the nature of my site is different.
- all in all we are in democracy, and I'm not against business and if they want to do business with sponsoring why not, they just have to be clear about that, and I won't have any grief about that. It would be better also that the cult aspect should be given up but I'm pretty sure that some people just like to follow Gurus
.I referred in some previous posts that I hoped the opinions voiced in this thread would influence woodie and encourage him to amend certain aspects of the room for the better.
There is no doubt that the senseless cult posts have reduced and 'call to arms' posts have stopped.
Even woodie has now measured his words carefully - to the extent of retracting a statement that cci predicts the news in case he received adverse comments. I wonder what forum he was thinking of?
The hindsight claims that cci calls all profitable trades still persists. Any intelligent person could review these trades and see similar entry signals on every other oscillator indicator. But there again perhaps cult membership requires a certain shortfall in rational thought.
I have no problem with the room being dedicated to cci trading but lets not insult people by suggesting that it is the only indicator that works.
On the question of remuneration, it is simplistic in the extreme to think that the only form of payment comes from subscription charges. Aside from the fact that woodie is now conducting seminars in various places for a fee of $250 per person, many have surmised that certain individuals might be receiving commission from those commercial businesses involved with the room and benefitting from the blatant promotion permitted within the room. Does anyone think the moderators do not receive free hotcom and charting packages?
There is no doubt that the senseless cult posts have reduced and 'call to arms' posts have stopped.
Even woodie has now measured his words carefully - to the extent of retracting a statement that cci predicts the news in case he received adverse comments. I wonder what forum he was thinking of?
The hindsight claims that cci calls all profitable trades still persists. Any intelligent person could review these trades and see similar entry signals on every other oscillator indicator. But there again perhaps cult membership requires a certain shortfall in rational thought.
I have no problem with the room being dedicated to cci trading but lets not insult people by suggesting that it is the only indicator that works.
On the question of remuneration, it is simplistic in the extreme to think that the only form of payment comes from subscription charges. Aside from the fact that woodie is now conducting seminars in various places for a fee of $250 per person, many have surmised that certain individuals might be receiving commission from those commercial businesses involved with the room and benefitting from the blatant promotion permitted within the room. Does anyone think the moderators do not receive free hotcom and charting packages?
I've got news for you my friend this world has always been about the struggle between the selfish and unselfish since the beginning of time.
This sad statistic above of 99.9% is a completely false in my opinion. I would say that it would be more like 10%. Totally the opposite.
Thank GOD because if what your saying where true which it is not, you wouldn't even be here right now.
Just ask any soldier on the battlefield right now that is putting his/her life on the line for your right to live.
The list of people that care about humanity and others goes on and on.
When you open your eyes and start to care about others and take your focus off yourself, you will be amazed at the blessings that you will discover.
I don't even know how to respond to the "subtle sex" comment but that sounds very freudian to me.. and in my opinion the height of stupidity.
Freud not you.
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