Who do you want to win the war?
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I understand you are young, and haven't really lived yet.
Try to understand that right now, at this moment, two countries are at war.
We can debate why they shouldn't be there all we want, but, it is irrelevant.
You are saying right now, that you want Saddam to continue his bloody regime.
How can you justify that?
What difference does it make if we had UN approval or not?
Practically speaking, either you support Saddam's regime or not.
If you support Saddam's regime, then you support brutality, and the attack by Saddam on Iran, the Kurds, and Kuwait. So, then what is the problem with the USA doing to Saddam exactly what he tried to do to others?
It is the inconsistency of the liberals that bothers me. They are not thinking things through.
It is entirely possible to say "I think Saddam should be removed from power as he is a monster, but I don't support unilateral action to do so."
That makes sense. But now, now that it is in process, a war that you cannot stop, public opinion and world opinion cannot stop, you are telling us that you want Saddam to continue to hold his reign of terror over Iraq?
And if Iraq did win, then what would Saddam do? Suddenly be a nice guy? How is he treating his citizens right now? Using them as human shields. Threatening their families if they don't fight. This is a man who you want to win?
It is nice to be idealistic, but if you are going to make it in the real world, you have to learn to temper idealism with realism.
Putin Calls Iraq War a Serious Crisis
Friday March 28, 2003 3:10 PM
MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday called the U.S.-led war against Iraq the most serious crisis since the end of the Cold War and warned that it threatened global stability.
The war is ``in danger of rocking the foundations of global stability and international law,'' Putin said during a meeting with Russian lawmakers, segments of which were aired on Russian television.
He said the ``only correct solution to the Iraqi problem is the immediate end to military activity in Iraq and resumption of a political settlement in the U.N. Security Council.''
Friday March 28, 2003 3:10 PM
MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday called the U.S.-led war against Iraq the most serious crisis since the end of the Cold War and warned that it threatened global stability.
The war is ``in danger of rocking the foundations of global stability and international law,'' Putin said during a meeting with Russian lawmakers, segments of which were aired on Russian television.
He said the ``only correct solution to the Iraqi problem is the immediate end to military activity in Iraq and resumption of a political settlement in the U.N. Security Council.''
No one is starving in our country, and if they are, it is because they are unwilling to accept the help others. Usually these would be drug addicts or victims of drug addicts, such as the children.
Your comparison is similiar to saying that a sick person shouldn't defend himself from an enemy who is approaching him with ill intent, but should instead focus on getting well, eating right, excercising, etc.
Your comparison is stupid. Your real argument is that Iraq is not our enemy. Well, too bad, we beleive they are sponsoring terrorism in our country and we are dealing with them as we deal with enemies.
Have you, in your long years on this earth, perchance come across the concept of "lesser of two evils"?
Obviously, I consider American hegemony and continual policing, probing, interference, and God knows what else behind the scenes (see -- I'm not too young to think it doesn't occur) is a far greater evil.
Just where do Americans get off taking the moral high road on this one? After all the pain and suffering American involvement in and support of brutal regimes that advanced American intersts in the past has caused, it boggles my mind to think you have been so badly sucked in by your administration.
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And another thing Optional. What would be the difference between asking me that question now, and asking me BEFORE the war started?
In both cases anybody that didn't want to see a war would be assigned to the "I favor the Saddam regime" slot.
This war certainly CAN stop; US & UK forces can withdraw. Not that there's any real chance they will.
They said the reason for 9-11 was becouse of our continuing presence in that region. Well fuck em, they will know what our presence realy is, weaether it be Iraq Iran or whoever they harbored these sneaky fucks so they are all to blame. We are seeking revenge and we are insuring that this will not happen again. I realy do not care about the sentiment around the world. Everybody need the US and we do not need them. So we are in a great postion to ask or say pick a side.
They stood by us after 9-11 but now they run when we came up with the only viable solution.
Fonzy, this is where your lack of human knowledge comes into play. You are a student that does not understand human nature. You said at one point that trader can be stupid or whatever, whne we pick on you and you take it to heart well the number one quality of traders is there lack of emotions, when we pick on you and you get all sensitive well that is a show of emotions FYI.
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